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~Bluelabel~
The Shades, Ongar,,
United Kingdom

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Thunderbird Sport (98-00)


icon08 Jan 2019 15:04
https://www.driving.co.uk/news/drivers-w...

The old 10% + 2mph limits have been dropped you have been warned...!
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The real X-man
North Lincolnshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 220
Enthusiast


icon08 Jan 2019 15:24
Well you have been warned 4 years ago anyway.....::kiss:
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Strat
North West,
United Kingdom

Posts: 381
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon08 Jan 2019 16:05
Yes, I'm attending a speed awareness course in a couple of weeks for 34 in a 30, I kid you not.
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chief lurker
preston lancs,
United Kingdom

Posts: 232
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon08 Jan 2019 16:11
36 in a 30 limit for brexiteers:grin:
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Fret
South,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Tiger Explorer


icon08 Jan 2019 17:59
Quote:
The old 10% + 2mph myth


Never existed. Speeding has always been an absolute
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That bloke Nick
Birley edge,
United Kingdom

Posts: 358
Daytona 675 SE


icon08 Jan 2019 18:14
Fret:
Quote:
The old 10% + 2mph myth


Never existed. Speeding has always been an absolute


Not strictly true. The ACPO guideline is 10% +2.

The general convention has been not to prosecute below that.
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

Posts: 818
Enthusiast


icon08 Jan 2019 18:23
Fret:
Quote:
The old 10% + 2mph myth


Never existed. Speeding has always been an absolute

Fret knows more than the Association of Chief Police Officers.40
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Mach 1
Durham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,473
Bonneville (01-08)


icon08 Jan 2019 18:46
That bloke Nick:
Fret:
Quote:
The old 10% + 2mph myth


Never existed. Speeding has always been an absolute


Not strictly true. The ACPO guideline is 10% +2.

The general convention has been not to prosecute below that.

:thumbup:
IIRC it was really to take into account speedo error in those days .
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That bloke Nick
Birley edge,
United Kingdom

Posts: 358
Daytona 675 SE


icon08 Jan 2019 18:51
Mach 1:
That bloke Nick:
Fret:
Quote:
The old 10% + 2mph myth


Never existed. Speeding has always been an absolute


Not strictly true. The ACPO guideline is 10% +2.

The general convention has been not to prosecute below that.

:thumbup:
IIRC it was really to take into account speedo error in those days .


It'd have to be a lot more than that to account for the wanderings of the the Veglia (Vaguelia) speedo on my Guzzi!:lol:
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-Rob NMTB -
Worcestershire,
United Kingdom

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icon08 Jan 2019 18:53
The limit is an absolute, it's the coppers discretion that varies. 01

You can't really argue.
70.1 mph is breaking the law.
What you think of that law may be a different matter :lol:

But, when these cameras were installed, it was quite clearly stated that they wouldn't be used to enforce the maximum limit. That policy certainly has changed.

Average speed cameras on A and B roads will be next. Big brother is watching you :sad::lol:
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andy d
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,283
Tiger Explorer XC


icon08 Jan 2019 18:53
Some forces adhere to the ACPO guidlines and others do not. An acquaintance of mine attended a speed awareness course for doing 32mph in a 30 limit. Cleveland, so be warned. Although why anyone would want to go to Cleveland is beyond me. :tongueout:
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-Rob NMTB -
Worcestershire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 245
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icon08 Jan 2019 18:54
p.s the speedo error argument is bollox. Speedos always over read, never under - by law 01
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon08 Jan 2019 19:36
-Rob NMTB -:
The limit is an absolute, it's the coppers discretion that varies. 01

You can't really argue.
70.1 mph is breaking the law.
What you think of that law may be a different matter :lol:

But, when these cameras were installed, it was quite clearly stated that they wouldn't be used to enforce the maximum limit. That policy certainly has changed.

Average speed cameras on A and B roads will be next. Big brother is watching you :sad::lol:


average speed setups on 2 of the 4 (i think) main roads coming in and out of preston (lancs) brocklhouse brow - a59 from m6 j31/blackburn and london rd , which is main a6 in/out , also 2 x average speed settups on rd to liverpool/southport

the nice sunday morning run with a warmed up puch maxi have now gone :lol:
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russ123rocket
Swinetown, Wiltshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 574
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icon08 Jan 2019 20:40
5 of us got caught in Austria in 2013 coming down from one of their mountain passes.

I was reading navigation instructions calibrated in miles against my speedo that was still in miles to see when to turn left etc. I was using the Sat Nav for my kph reading.

We got stopped speeding in a 20kph area doing 26kph.

The fine was based on a 10% allowance over the speed limit plus 2kph. The fine came to 20 euros on the spot or we could fight it in court.........we paid.
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Mach 1
Durham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,473
Bonneville (01-08)


icon08 Jan 2019 20:49
-Rob NMTB -:
The limit is an absolute, it's the coppers discretion that varies. 01

You can't really argue.
70.1 mph is breaking the law.
What you think of that law may be a different matter :lol:


And yet you can murder a father on a train and plead paranoia as a defence :speechless:
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jaguartvr
Englefield Green,
United Kingdom

Posts: 4,733
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icon09 Jan 2019 17:59
I'm going on the naughty boy course in February, going with my 17 year old daughter to make a day out of it. The wife would have been coming as well but she has been within the last 3 years so got points instead.
3 speeding offences in 10 days, not bad going:thumbdown::cry:
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KentGoldings
Mälardalen,
Sweden

Posts: 858
Daytona 955i (99-01)


icon09 Jan 2019 18:11
Mach 1:
-Rob NMTB -:
The limit is an absolute, it's the coppers discretion that varies. 01

You can't really argue.
70.1 mph is breaking the law.
What you think of that law may be a different matter :lol:


And yet you can murder a father on a train and plead paranoia as a defence :speechless:


But hey, speeding is a much more serious offence... 13
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Obeewan
Eastern Angles,
United Kingdom

Daytona Super III


icon09 Jan 2019 19:57
Mach 1:
-Rob NMTB -:
The limit is an absolute, it's the coppers discretion that varies. 01

You can't really argue.
70.1 mph is breaking the law.
What you think of that law may be a different matter :lol:


And yet you can murder a father on a train and plead paranoia as a defence :speechless:


That c!$% has got it coming.:angry:
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Katies Grandad
Snot on the Ouse,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,207
Speed Triple 1050


icon10 Jan 2019 15:06
Speed awareness courses are nothing but a money making exercise for ACPO.:angry:
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That bloke Nick
Birley edge,
United Kingdom

Posts: 358
Daytona 675 SE


icon10 Jan 2019 16:35
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-...

:lol::lol::lol:
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russ123rocket
Swinetown, Wiltshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 574
Enthusiast


icon10 Jan 2019 16:48
jaguartvr:
3 speeding offences in 10 days, not bad going:thumbdown::cry:


f!$% me, are you just oblivious to the speed limits on the roads or just "unlucky"? :lol::lol::lol:
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jaguartvr
Englefield Green,
United Kingdom

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icon10 Jan 2019 17:56
"special":blush:
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-Rob NMTB -
Worcestershire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 245
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icon10 Jan 2019 20:27
Quote:
Speed awareness courses are nothing but a money making exercise for ACPO


I did wonder if it was a backdoor way of getting large numbers of folk to take some sort of refresher training 44
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That bloke Nick
Birley edge,
United Kingdom

Posts: 358
Daytona 675 SE


icon10 Jan 2019 22:05
Pointless, but better than points on your licence.
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

Posts: 14,351
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icon10 Jan 2019 22:45
move to france , enjoy https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-...
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-Rob NMTB -
Worcestershire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 245
Enthusiast


icon11 Jan 2019 17:05
That bloke Nick:
Pointless, but better than points on your licence.


tbh, I disagree. Having seen some of the morons on these courses, I think they provide irrefutable proof, that everyone should have to take refresher training.
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Riggsy
Maidenhead/Cov,
United Kingdom

Posts: 40,321
Street Triple R


icon11 Jan 2019 18:13
jaguartvr:

3 speeding offences in 10 days, not bad going:thumbdown::cry:


Thats damn GOOD going.. :lol::lol::lol:


The 10% + 2mph threshold was always only ever a guideline, police regions were free to operated slight variations on it.

I've run my car/bike at 55mph in a 50mph SPECS controlled area without any problems (well up to now)
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Obeewan
Eastern Angles,
United Kingdom

Daytona Super III


icon13 Jan 2019 11:00
-Rob NMTB -:
That bloke Nick:
Pointless, but better than points on your licence.


tbh, I disagree. Having seen some of the morons on these courses, I think they provide irrefutable proof, that everyone should have to take refresher training.


Yet more ammunition that these morons shouldn't be allowed near a car let alone given a licence. Don't even start me on the 80+ generation that seem to be behind the wheel in every direction you look - had one old dear drive straight at me yesterday, the only reason she missed me was because I was on the bike!30
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

Posts: 14,351
Enthusiast


icon13 Jan 2019 11:46
dont you lov it as they smile at you , as they pull out :lol:
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