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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
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icon17 Jul 2018 18:01
Dan the man at bootleg seats , finished my seat , bit tall at the rear tho , he is away on hols next week but will look at it asap after hols

95 kilo , handles quite nicely

https://ibb.co/jir8zJ
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~Bluelabel~
The Shades, Ongar,,
United Kingdom

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Thunderbird Sport (98-00)


icon17 Jul 2018 18:36
Too high at the front... the forks need pushing thru the yokes...
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

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icon17 Jul 2018 18:39
Maybe a pair of black gaiters might help?
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon17 Jul 2018 18:42
~Bluelabel~:
Too high at the front... the forks need pushing thru the yokes...


second person to comment on front , I looked , can gain about 20-35mm max before touching bars , they are new standard gn ones , filled with UK oil , I dont find bike high , in fact its bloody low

KK , yup , then I can fit some s!$%tyh rusty forks I have

bobbers dont have gaiters
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Andy
Newbury,
United Kingdom

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Sprint RS (00-01)


icon17 Jul 2018 18:43
---KK---:
Maybe a pair of black gaiters might help?

On the bike or its owner ? :lol:
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon17 Jul 2018 18:54
Andy:
---KK---:
Maybe a pair of black gaiters might help?

On the bike or its owner ? :lol:


:lol::lol::lol:
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

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icon17 Jul 2018 19:01
Sir Alan of Ingol:


bobbers dont have gaiters
They don't normally look like they are doing a wheelie with both wheels on the ground either.:tongueout:
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon17 Jul 2018 19:11
ok the frame and forks and front wheel are std suzuki gn , origional bikes had 2.75 , modern replacement is 90/90

rear I have fitted LONGER 330mm shocks , original are 305 / 310mm rear tyre is std 3.50

I fitted those forks on my other bike when it was crashed , after a week or so they seemed to have dropped/settled an inch or so

anyone know widths of older tyres , and rim fitment , also whats a 4.10 ?
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Nick
Birley Edge,
United Kingdom

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TT600 (00-01)


icon17 Jul 2018 19:15
4.1 inches or 104 mm wide.
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
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icon17 Jul 2018 19:19
so is that wider than a 4.00 x "xx" , can't seem to find info
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Nick
Birley Edge,
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TT600 (00-01)


icon17 Jul 2018 19:27
Yes, 4.1 inches is 0.1 inches wider that 4 inches.

It's not rocket science!:lol:
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon17 Jul 2018 20:12
why would they make a tyre 0.1 inch wider , when rest in range are 2.75 , 3.0 3.50 4.00

tyre sizes went up in .25 or 0.5 , cant see any other oddball "X".10 in tyre range
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John Nelson
Coventry,
United Kingdom

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Speedmaster


icon17 Jul 2018 23:45
A 4.10 always looked smaller than a 4.00.
The 4.00 is the old 100% aspect ratio size series and is a bigger rolling radius than the lower profile 4.10


Metric size equivalent of a 4.10 would be a 90% size, probably a 100/90

Avon tyres web site has a tyre size equivalence page, or it used to...
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Stu
NW - UK,
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icon18 Jul 2018 19:36
Not my cup of tea Alan, but fair play for putting it right to your taste. Reminds of a bike I used have in the 90's

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%...


Now if you were to do something like this

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%...
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~Bluelabel~
The Shades, Ongar,,
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Thunderbird Sport (98-00)


icon18 Jul 2018 20:04
Now the second one looks nice Stu...
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon18 Jul 2018 20:21
yes the second one looks good , but with thse types of bikes there are no "rules"

I have learnt (or re learnt) a lot whilst building mine , and in some ways wasted money

arrived the other day , brand new factory frame

https://ibb.co/mg0SBy

I have access to 3 of them , so thought I would sell one on ebay to pay for frame work I want doing

frames stand me at £142 , last time suzuki had them they were £850 , (non left)

after 5 days one bloody bid at starting price of 99p , so I pulled it

a bettery box has been ordered (84 yr old bloke ) and a seat hoop , frame is with troy at serious scooters who is a brill welder , for de lugging and new bits adding

the next will be a "slow build"

but at least I am not starting with this

https://ibb.co/nr8NBy


https://ibb.co/ha6OjJ
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

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icon18 Jul 2018 21:15
~Bluelabel~:
Now the second one looks nice Stu...
And it has black fork gaiters....
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon18 Jul 2018 21:18
yup I spotted that and a rear mudguard as well :lol:

perhaps the fork legs were rusty :lol:
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

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icon18 Jul 2018 21:19
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Stu
NW - UK,
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icon20 Jul 2018 21:55
Extra points Alan if the next one includes a high compression piston with Nitrous! :smirk: :thumbup:

As your only up the road from me I'd pay for a test ride! :lol:
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon20 Jul 2018 22:52
I have located a dead DR125 engine , domed piston , head with bigger valves and larger ports , there is nowhere for the Nitrous bottles , sorry

frames away being professionally de lugged , battery box fitted and rear hoop , then to powder coaters

no rush with second one
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

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icon21 Jul 2018 17:24
Cycling along the canal path today I saw this: Could be your next project. :lol:

https://s8.postimg.cc/g4knu0kyd/IMG_2018...
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon21 Jul 2018 18:44
excellent , get it shipped asap
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Riggsy
Maidenhead/Cov,
United Kingdom

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Street Triple R


icon27 Jul 2018 19:47
https://ibb.co/jir8zJ

Ahhhh, My eyes:cry::cry:
Frames not level (due to forks and that disgusting front wheel.)

However:
The orange colour is not utterly vomit inducing ...

BUT:
WHY?????
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon27 Jul 2018 20:04
ral 3020
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

Posts: 14,347
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icon27 Jul 2018 22:17
those are the origional forks , they have been stripped , new seals , cleaned and will be sprayed in satin black over the weekend

https://ibb.co/kAdZB8


those are a pair of genuine gn wheels (16 rear , 18 front )

https://imgbb.com/


the rear shocks are 330 mm , I chose them to give clearance at the back , but having ridden the bike , they can be changed for 300 or 310mm ones

as a point of reference , this is a pic of my old gn , the forks on it are actually the ones on the red bike , I removed them (and fitted old ones) before i sold it

https://ibb.co/bz5pB8
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon29 Jul 2018 15:57
front end now lowered 25-30mm , rear shocks to be changed to 310 instead of 330

https://ibb.co/fg6JPT
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon01 Aug 2018 13:52
30mm lowered at front , 30mm lowered at rear (shorter shocks)

https://ibb.co/cHCkRK
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~Bluelabel~
The Shades, Ongar,,
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Thunderbird Sport (98-00)


icon01 Aug 2018 16:03
Needs to go down at least another foot at the front... well 6 inches at least... any option for shorter forks...?
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

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icon01 Aug 2018 17:03
Fit those black gaiters, it won't then look half so terrible.:thumbup:
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon01 Aug 2018 17:40
~Bluelabel~:
Needs to go down at least another foot at the front... well 6 inches at least... any option for shorter forks...?


I have been watching you tube vids on fork shortening , adding a spacer low down and reducing the lengh of the spacer at the top , but more research needed

its gone down at least 30mm at the front , coz my brake hose is now hitting me in the nose

need to mod the back end to clear numberplate now
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BINKIE -AKA Woodie
Upper Bucklebury,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,351
Tiger (07->)


icon02 Aug 2018 14:36
looks.....



erm.....



aaaahh.....


interesting.


But definitely NOT my cup of tea.
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon02 Aug 2018 15:05
it is actually great fun to ride , especially in towns and traffic , so low , so thin and so light , must have lost 20kg from the original 107kg , and it accelerates like a bat out of hell

still awaiting new s/arm from germany and a new tyre for the back , it gets embarrassing when the back overtakes the front
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon04 Aug 2018 18:42
myhermes and even yodel make DHL/UKmail look bad

ukmail , what a set off tossers , been sat waiting for a delivery (loaded on van at 09.15) all bloody day "out for delivery"

thank god it was not hot german sausage I ordered ,
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Katies Grandad
Snot on the Ouse,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,207
Speed Triple 1050


icon05 Aug 2018 20:39
I would say that the front height is due to the frame shape and if you drop the front you will end up with too sharp a head angle and s!$% handling.
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GDCobra
North West,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,008
Thruxton (09->)


icon06 Aug 2018 21:20
Sir Alan of Ingol:
myhermes and even yodel make DHL/UKmail look bad

ukmail , what a set off tossers , been sat waiting for a delivery (loaded on van at 09.15) all bloody day "out for delivery"

thank god it was not hot german sausage I ordered ,


Probably their tantric service.
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon06 Aug 2018 21:50
well after listening to advice and changing the rear tyre from a 3.5 to a 110/70 I have won 3 local records

a 110/70 is the max size for a 2.15 rim . HOWEVER due to the rim size the tyre is "bulging" on the rim and cannot (due to sidewall height) reach 110 mm wide ,

its also like a f!$%in polo , , enough for the bike to fall over when on side stand

I need a 110/80 or 90

the records I have broken ? the 0-20mph sprint , the 0-30mph sprint and the 0-40 mph sprint

a guy on a tuned up 50 cc moped got to 50 mph faster than me ,,,,,,,,,,, actually I never got to 50mph

https://ibb.co/ePM2GK

new swinging arm also fitted today , rocking horse s!$% thing , from germany £23 + £23 postage , if the bloke had of said new old stock , I would have believed him , its that good

https://ibb.co/hvkZVe


gn125 swinging arms secondhand , do not exist , they all rotted thru due to the chainguard grommet , however if you enter the part number in ebay you get hits , mainly from germany TU125 , not GN125 , 3 available part number 6100005300019
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John Nelson
Coventry,
United Kingdom

Posts: 3,275
Speedmaster


icon06 Aug 2018 21:56
I think I said a while ago that you should be looking for 100/90 to replace a 3.50 section original.
I'm sticking with that suggestion.
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon06 Aug 2018 22:01
yes I am now tending to agree with you due to rim size

3.50 wide = 3.50 on tall = 88.9 mm 110/70 = 110 but 70 percent height = 77 millimeters

110/80 is a rare beast , but 110/90 is common , 90% of 110 = 99mm , I can accept + 11mm
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

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icon07 Aug 2018 11:56
When are you going to fit the gaiters?





:tongueout:
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

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icon07 Aug 2018 13:01
new fuel tank arrived today , the quality of workmanship is fantastic , the welder and the psainter should be rewarded

a f!$%ing big weld "blob"

https://ibb.co/iKi9Fe



and the excellent "see thru paint job"


https://ibb.co/doUo8z



the ebay iriot stated item was in UK , however it came from chine


they can now sent me a postage label and pay for its return
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onlineStrongy
Cumbria,
United Kingdom

Posts: 4,996
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon07 Aug 2018 13:08
Alan, you appear to have perfected the art of lurching from one disaster to another :thumbup::lol:

Good luck mate I think you need it
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

Posts: 14,347
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icon07 Aug 2018 13:11
I am just sorting "wrinkles" out , and have been gathering new parts in order to reframe the bike (new frame) with a brand new engine
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---KK---
Essex,
United Kingdom

Posts: 807
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icon07 Aug 2018 13:44
Strongy:
Alan, you appear to have perfected the art of lurching from one disaster to another :thumbup::lol:
It's more than merely an art form, he's raised it to a pure science. They'll be running courses on it at Uni shortly. :lol:
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~Bluelabel~
The Shades, Ongar,,
United Kingdom

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Thunderbird Sport (98-00)


icon07 Aug 2018 13:48
it is entertaining.... the annoying thing is, if he saved up and bought decent gear rather than doing it on the cheap all the time, he'd end up with something quite nifty that worked......

SIR ALAN... RECITE THIS MANTRA....

BUY CHEAP, PAY TWICE

:tongueout::tongueout::thumbup:
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GDCobra
North West,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,008
Thruxton (09->)


icon07 Aug 2018 14:01
Sir Alan of Ingol:
I am just sorting "wrinkles" out , and have been gathering new parts in order to reframe the bike (new frame) with a brand new engine


And swing arm. Sounds like triggers broom.
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Nick
Birley Edge,
United Kingdom

Posts: 20,825
TT600 (00-01)


icon07 Aug 2018 14:15
~Bluelabel~:
it is entertaining.... the annoying thing is, if he saved up and bought decent gear rather than doing it on the cheap all the time, he'd end up with something quite nifty that worked......

SIR ALAN... RECITE THIS MANTRA....

BUY CHEAP, PAY TWICE

:tongueout::tongueout::thumbup:



It's the usual problem of people knowing the cost of everything, but the value of nothing.
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Mach 1
Durham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,473
Bonneville (01-08)


icon07 Aug 2018 18:19
Sir Alan of Ingol:
I am just sorting "wrinkles" out , and have been gathering new parts in order to reframe the bike (new frame) with a brand new engine
Sir Alan of Ingol:
30mm lowered at front , 30mm lowered at rear (shorter shocks)

https://ibb.co/cHCkRK



I think it's ok :thumbup:, would be a cheap tool just for riding round the streets and general mucking about .

IMO it's the angle of the tank that makes it look high at the front . The seat looks level (although a thinner seat would look nicer ) but your eye is drawn to the sloping tank on the bottom end .
If it was made to look more like a 70's trail bike it would be really nice :thumbup:
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Sir Alan of Ingol
sespit of the north,
United Kingdom

Posts: 14,347
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icon07 Aug 2018 18:23
yes I spotted that the guy in paris that made them (badwinners) lifted the back of the tank up by 10-20mm , I will order a spacer block and try it next

and you are right , its actually a toot to ride
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GDCobra
North West,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,008
Thruxton (09->)


icon07 Aug 2018 18:32
Nick:
~Bluelabel~:
it is entertaining.... the annoying thing is, if he saved up and bought decent gear rather than doing it on the cheap all the time, he'd end up with something quite nifty that worked......

SIR ALAN... RECITE THIS MANTRA....

BUY CHEAP, PAY TWICE

:tongueout::tongueout::thumbup:



It's the usual problem of people knowing the cost of everything, but the value of nothing.


If the guy gets a kick out of playing around with it good luck to him. It easy to be critical of others but not ourselves, many people probably think things I do are crazy. Maybe in 10 years ill think so too.
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