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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon23 Apr 2018 19:33
Why haven't we got an off road section lol

I'm looking to buy an enduro bike next month

No idea what to buy on got a couple grand to spend

2 stroke or 4 stroke 250 or 300 need some help guys from those in the know.

Failing that I'll just fit knobbly tyres on my xjr lol
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon23 Apr 2018 20:20
Air cooled with an electric start and no bigger than 400cc would be my suggestion :thumbup:
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jaguartvr
Englefield Green,
United Kingdom

Posts: 4,642
Enthusiast


icon23 Apr 2018 20:21
2 stroke, just think of the smell:thumbup:


In Wales you don't need knobblys, best to fit wets:lol:
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Grumpy
dunstable,
United Kingdom

Posts: 130
Daytona T595


icon23 Apr 2018 21:13
Had a kdx200 was great fun still ment to be one of the best starter enduros around
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Exuptoy
Maesteg, Mid Glam,
United Kingdom

Posts: 15,350
Daytona 675


icon23 Apr 2018 22:04
Go on Tim do it. Bet you're not as brave as this guy?

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Strongy
Cumbria,
United Kingdom

Posts: 4,922
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon24 Apr 2018 06:35
Tim if you are just greenlining a DRZ400 or XR400 are as good as anything, if you want to do enduro's then go for a WR yam, CRF Honda or ktm etc as they are much lighter and easier when you get knackered.
I personally think the yam has the better motor as CRF had a habit of munching the top ends ie valves n cams.
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lord homertrix stand up
derbyshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 24,378
Daytona 955i (99-01)


icon24 Apr 2018 07:46
Get what ever is a bargain, personally I've done the whole motocross and enduro thing years ago on good bikes, you just end up looking for bigger jumps to do. So now I'm looking at joining a vintage enduro club as soon as I finish building my kanguro, and it's more about managing to get to the destination in a leisurely fashion :smile:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon24 Apr 2018 08:30
Strongy:
Tim if you are just greenlining a DRZ400 or XR400 are as good as anything, if you want to do enduro's then go for a WR yam, CRF Honda or ktm etc as they are much lighter and easier when you get knackered.
I personally think the yam has the better motor as CRF had a habit of munching the top ends ie valves n cams.


It is just green laning I'm after too old to try racing lol. But due to my back I want something light.

I've spotted a nice yamaha wr250f I might take a look at.
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Mach 1
Durham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,290
Bonneville (01-08)


icon24 Apr 2018 08:51
Haven't had much to do with the smaller engine Wr range , but if they are like the bigger engines I would stay away from them . If you have any problems with the top end they are an arm and a leg , £1000+ for a bare head.
XR400 is quite a heavy bike but the DRZ is pretty decent . Also the Kawasaki KDX220 is old school but well built and capable .
2 strokes are easier to work on , and if you drown them it's a piece of piss to take the plug out and crank them over to get rid of water. 4 strokes are another matter , proper twat to get into on some models. Negative for 2 stroke is carrying the oil and it will use more fuel
KTM are generally regarded as the best off-road , 250 2 stroke or 300 4 stroke ideal if you're new to it , not too powerful but enough to get out of most situations .
If you only want to do short distances and want something really light then the likes of KTM's Freeride is a good proposition although they aren't cheap.
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Tasha
Dundee,
United Kingdom

Posts: 298
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon24 Apr 2018 08:55
What about an air cooled XL Tim?
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russ999rocket
Swine Town,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,681
Tiger Explorer


icon24 Apr 2018 14:45
Nice n Fat:
Air cooled with an electric start and no bigger than 400cc would be my suggestion :thumbup:


Why air cooled Paul, because of less chance of radiator damage?
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon24 Apr 2018 15:33
Exactly that Russ :thumbup:

You might be the greatest road rider in the world but you will crash once you venture on to a green lane

I started on a KMX200 (only got one radiator so always threw it down on the non radiator side) :tongueout:

Air cooled with electric start I would suggest is a great starting point

Something like a Yamaha TTR250 or Suzuki DR350 for throwing at the scenery is a good compromise

The big mistake most people make is thinking that they need a big engined bike. 60mph in a green lane environment is bloody fast and a 250 is easily capable of this

Get a water cooled bike once you've gained some experience and learned to stop crashing :thumbup:
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ST
South,
United Kingdom

Posts: 108,921
Enthusiast


icon24 Apr 2018 15:36
most erudite ! ..... 04
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon24 Apr 2018 15:42
Tasha:
What about an air cooled XL Tim?


Still open to ideas mate biggest issue is my size as I'm over 6ft n a fat f!$%er lol
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon24 Apr 2018 19:06
There's a 2013 crf250me for sale near me but I think it will be too slow lol

Its only done 710 miles too lol
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Mach 1
Durham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,290
Bonneville (01-08)


icon24 Apr 2018 20:46
Nice n Fat:
Exactly that Russ :thumbup:

You might be the greatest road rider in the world but you will crash once you venture on to a green lane

I started on a KMX200 (only got one radiator so always threw it down on the non radiator side) :tongueout:

Air cooled with electric start I would suggest is a great starting point

Something like a Yamaha TTR250 or Suzuki DR350 for throwing at the scenery is a good compromise

The big mistake most people make is thinking that they need a big engined bike. 60mph in a green lane environment is bloody fast and a 250 is easily capable of this

Get a water cooled bike once you've gained some experience and learned to stop crashing :thumbup:


TTR and DR are both good choices aswell
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon24 Apr 2018 20:51
~EARL~:
There's a 2013 crf250me for sale near me but I think it will be too slow lol


Too slow for what?
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon24 Apr 2018 21:24
Lugging a lump like me about lol
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon24 Apr 2018 21:38
No, it'll be fine but may be a bit on the low side for you?
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Strongy
Cumbria,
United Kingdom

Posts: 4,922
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon25 Apr 2018 12:47
Tim,
If you go down the Yam WR250 route I have an Athena 290 Big bore kit with original and brand new spare piston for sale that makes the bike a lot more fun as it is gruntier :thumbup:
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Koro
Severn Valley,
United Kingdom

Posts: 4,363
Speed Triple T309


icon25 Apr 2018 15:01
I've seen many novice green laners get too knackered trying to kickstart a bike when it is up to the saddle in mud or in a deep rut. As said, go for electric start ( and kickstart if possible as backup ).

I had XR400, which I found a bit too big and heavy. I had a Yam WR250F which is a very good enduro bike, but revvy engine which is annoying for any road use and also radiators to be broken.

I think the yam TTR250 is a good all rounder - air cooled, electric start. I used one for a few days in Spain and it did the job well enough. Also Suzuki DRZ400 a good choice.

I've currently got an old XR250 ( 1987 ) which is good for green laning but no electric start.

I can recommend these people for guided riding
http://www.trailrides-wales.com/
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon25 Apr 2018 17:38
I've thought about a drz we shall see I'll keep my eye out n see what grabs me
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon26 Apr 2018 09:30
Found an old suzuki dr350 for sale 2 owners 22k on clock

Thoughts
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon26 Apr 2018 09:36
Good choice :thumbup:

Has it got an electric start?

Trail Versions some did and some didn't. Some trail versions were electric start only. They also did an 'enduro' version of the DR350 which was quite rare but more desirable. That was kicker only :tongueout:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon26 Apr 2018 10:06
It's a 1995 and kick start only lol but expected for its age.

Only thing I don't know about is how to value them it's up for more than 500 quid :tongueout:
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon26 Apr 2018 10:14
Condition is all important. Evidence of regular servicing would be good. A shade over £1000 is probably about right unless it's a minter? :thumbup:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon26 Apr 2018 10:45
:thumbup: cheers Paul
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lord homertrix stand up
derbyshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 24,378
Daytona 955i (99-01)


icon26 Apr 2018 19:50
Crm 250
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon26 Apr 2018 22:22
CRM would also be a good choice but is watercooled :sad:

On the plus side there are lots of parts still available :thumbup:
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Mach 1
Durham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,290
Bonneville (01-08)


icon26 Apr 2018 23:22
~EARL~:
Found an old suzuki dr350 for sale 2 owners 22k on clock

Thoughts


Definitely worth a look at :thumbup:.

Just to add Tim that I was in your position around a year ago and was looking for a cheap green laner . Most of my info regarding choice of bike comes from a late friend of mine who was treasurer of the TRF in my area and was an oracle for all things off-road.
The main difference between you and I is I am a short arsed fooker , 5'7", so any big trailie just was a no no for me.
I just didn't want a ticking time bomb bike that was going to cost a fortune to repair if it went bang so I was looking at the KDX220 . the negative with older bikes is the fork legs extend past the front axle so if you get into deep ruts they can catch and drag you off line , but I wasn't looking to ride anything that extreme anyway
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Koro
Severn Valley,
United Kingdom

Posts: 4,363
Speed Triple T309


icon27 Apr 2018 10:30
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-DRZ-40...

This one caught my eye. If it was closer to home I would go look at it for myself. Needs a new pair of Enduro tyres though.
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon27 Apr 2018 14:11
I saw that one too but distance put me off
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TQ
OXFORDSHIRE,
United Kingdom

Posts: 35,320
Speed Triple 1050


icon27 Apr 2018 17:00
tim..250 will be fine man:lol: just look at chain sprockets , wheel bearings usual,
off road stuff on off road bikes that wear...lekky start is a must, but you are a lanky sod so should be fine:lol::tongueout:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon29 Apr 2018 14:42
Well I looked at the bike today as far as I could tell was in good condition for age. Tried it on for size and fitted ok.

Started from cold on 2nd kick and ran sweet. I made him an offer which was below his asking price and left him to mull it over lol

Didn't seem too impressed lol

Now currently watching a drz400 on eBay in Aberystwyth lol
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Riggsy
Maidenhead/Cov,
United Kingdom

Posts: 40,282
Street Triple R


icon06 May 2018 18:52
~EARL~:
Why haven't we got an off road section lol

I'm looking to buy an enduro bike next month

No idea what to buy on got a couple grand to spend

2 stroke or 4 stroke 250 or 300 need some help guys from those in the know.

Failing that I'll just fit knobbly tyres on my xjr lol


Finally realised you can't hack it on a road bike then?
:smirk::lol::lol::lol:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon06 May 2018 19:56
It was either that or buy a big gay cruiser :kiss:
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon06 May 2018 20:13
I've just bought a CCM GP450 :smile:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon06 May 2018 20:48
I've still not found one yet lol

Doesn't help that I still don't know what I want and most are too bloody far away lol
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Riggsy
Maidenhead/Cov,
United Kingdom

Posts: 40,282
Street Triple R


icon06 May 2018 20:50
~EARL~:
It was either that or buy a big gay cruiser :kiss:


:lol::lol:
You're jealous 'cos I'm so cool.
:lol::lol:

Anyway, I sold
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to finance:
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:grin::grin:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon06 May 2018 20:56
Old age is a wonderful thing lol


I'm looking forward to my Europe trip especially after my run out today :thumbup:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon08 May 2018 19:07
Ptb shop

Both similar age n price but which would you go for ktm 250 exc or 250 excf

Why are my life decisions so bloody hard lol :lol::lol:
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon08 May 2018 19:59
~EARL~:
Both similar age n price but which would you go for ktm 250 exc or 250 excf


More information needed and perhaps a link to the adverts ?
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Mach 1
Durham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,290
Bonneville (01-08)


icon08 May 2018 20:23
~EARL~:
Ptb shop

Both similar age n price but which would you go for ktm 250 exc or 250 excf

Why are my life decisions so bloody hard lol :lol::lol:


The 2 stroke will be way faster , more akin to a 300 4-stroke in power , and probably a bit lighter basically as it hasn't got the added weight of valves, cam, etc .
Both probably the same chassis but the 4 stroke a lot harder to work on . 4 stroke better on fuel and you don't need to carry two stroke oil .
Personally I would go for the 2 stroke if you like home maintenance , I've worked on 4 stroke and 2 stroke KTM's and 2 strokes piss easy :thumbup:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon08 May 2018 20:40
Cheers. Tgats the kind off answer I'm looking for.

I'm leaning towards the 4t for engine braking as a newbie.

Maybe go 2 stroke if I like it .

Nice n Fat:
~EARL~:
Both similar age n price but which would you go for ktm 250 exc or 250 excf


More information needed and perhaps a link to the adverts ?


Pm sent
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon08 May 2018 21:08
And replied to Tim :thumbup:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Posts: 86,261
Tiger 800XC


icon08 May 2018 21:25
:thumbup:
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