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5printst
east angular,
United Kingdom

Posts: 136
Thunderbird (10->)


icon11 Apr 2018 12:55
Motorcycles Matter!

Join MAG's Awareness Ride in London
Saturday 21st April 2018
All motorcycle, scooter and moped riders are invited to come to London on 21st April to make the point that “Motorcycles Matter”.

Motorcycles play an important role in our congested cities.

The problem is that the people running things don’t get it.
Transport for London (TfL) and the Mayor of London refuse to acknowledge this.
It’s not just London: there are another 28 authorities around the country looking into Clean Air Zones (CAZ) and charging vehicles for entering them.
In London, it will cost £12.50 a day to pass the North and South Circular into central London.


Your Local Authority should be doing more to make it safe to park your bike by supplying more motorcycle parking bays with security.
Manufacturers should be doing more to build in better security.
Insurance companies should not be punishing the owners.
The government should be doing more to support the Police in their fight against theft and increasing the penalties so that owners are not financially punished due to increased premiums.
We are not a ‘cash cow’ to bolster failing finances due to government cutbacks.



So it’s time for motorcyclists to hit the road for a “Motorcycles Matter” awareness ride!


Keep an eye on social media for updates on this event.

Get passionate! Get involved!
Because Motorcycles Matter!

Motorcycle Action Group
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ian
from the"mud people",
United Kingdom

Premier Member
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Daytona 955i (99-01)


icon11 Apr 2018 13:00
Not once did you mention why i would go and be against any charge, emissions. So seeing if thats all its about, is parking, i dont go near london anyway. So until my city decide to charge im quite happy for the charge to go ahead.:thumbup:
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Grumpy
dunstable,
United Kingdom

Posts: 111
Daytona T595


icon11 Apr 2018 13:58
I'm all right Jack :thumbdown::thumbdown:
Where and when is the meeting
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ian
from the"mud people",
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 3,490
Daytona 955i (99-01)


icon11 Apr 2018 13:59
yep:smile:
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mikeg15
N.Ireland,
United Kingdom

Posts: 78
Tiger (01-06)


icon11 Apr 2018 14:17
If TfL and the Weasel Mayor are not opposed in this, London policies will be adopted nationwide. MAG were instrumental in getting bikes into bus lanes in Belfast, which is relevant to me.
Support MAG.
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Nige
Tuesday so must be,
Belgium

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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon11 Apr 2018 16:17
I'm amazed MAG still exists after the way it was almost torn apart through political infighting (and losing an employment tribunal decision over constructive dismissal) a few years ago.
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Obee Wan
Angles of the East,
United Kingdom

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Speed Triple T309


icon11 Apr 2018 18:48
Best thing MAG could do is invite continental bikers, particularly the French - they're serious about their bikes and got a million of them in Paris for just one demo!:thumbup::thumbup: Without big numbers the politicians couldn't give a toss.:thumbdown:
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onlineJohn Nelson
Coventry,
United Kingdom

Posts: 3,135
Speedmaster


icon11 Apr 2018 21:27
Obee Wan:
... Without big numbers the politicians couldn't give a toss.:thumbdown:


Can I take it that you will be there to boost the numbers then?
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onlineGDCobra
North West,
United Kingdom

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Thruxton (09->)


icon11 Apr 2018 21:41
London is physically around 250 miles away from me, in every other sense it is on another planet. Don't think I'll be there.
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Nick
Birley Edge,
United Kingdom

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TT600 (00-01)


icon11 Apr 2018 21:42
It's a pity that Simon Milward is no longer here to lead the fight.:sad:

Liversausage and Screaming Lord Mutch etc. are self-serving w!$%ers.

They now remind me of a trades union.:thumbdown:
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Nige
Tuesday so must be,
Belgium

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Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon12 Apr 2018 09:18
Nick:
It's a pity that Simon Milward is no longer here to lead the fight.:sad:

Liversausage and Screaming Lord Mutch etc. are self-serving w!$%ers.

They now remind me of a trades union.:thumbdown:
Hence my comment from earlier ......
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Obee Wan
Angles of the East,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Speed Triple T309


icon12 Apr 2018 18:13
John Nelson:
Obee Wan:
... Without big numbers the politicians couldn't give a toss.:thumbdown:


Can I take it that you will be there to boost the numbers then?


That's the plan but I've just been on the MAG FB page and there's bugger all coverage or spreading the word throughout the motorcycle community that I can see - do I need new specs or is this the real picture? If very few motorcyclists are aware then nobody will turn up on the day. With social media this protest should have saturation coverage everywhere with only 9 days to go - I had no idea until this thread yesterday.
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onlineJohn Nelson
Coventry,
United Kingdom

Posts: 3,135
Speedmaster


icon13 Apr 2018 10:32
Obee Wan:
... - I had no idea until this thread yesterday.

Nor had I - doesn't bode well for a big turn out.
A piss poor show would be worse than no show at all.
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J-Zeus
London,
United Kingdom

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Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon17 Apr 2018 04:38
Where?:smile::smile:
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onlineJohn Nelson
Coventry,
United Kingdom

Posts: 3,135
Speedmaster


icon17 Apr 2018 10:06
Bloody good question.
I've had a look on the MAG web site and all I could find was a Facebook link.
https://www.facebook.com/events/33411996...
That didn't get me any information but then I'm not on FB so maybe there is more to see there if you join?
I did see something on about 150 going and nearly 600 interested but sod all visible to me about times or places.
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Mark Savage
Warwickshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,613
Enthusiast


icon17 Apr 2018 13:18
For those interested I've copied and pasted.
As it's in London I shan't fail to miss it.


Please note the new departure times!!!!!

North East London start
The Original tea hut, Loughton IG10 4HR
Arrive 8.30 am for 9 am departure
Pick up at Zenith Motorcycles.
2 Rainbow Works, 21 Markfield Road, London N15 4RG
Riders to arrive from 9.00.am for a 9.30 departure
South East London Start
The Iron Horse, 122 Station Rd, Sidcup DA15 7AB
Arrive 9.00 am for a 9.30 am departure.
Pick up Blackheath Tea jut,
Goffers Rd, Blackheath, London SE3 0UA.
Riders to arrive from 9.30 am for a 10.00 am departure
South West London Start.
Rykkas Cafe, Old London Rd, Box Hill, Mickleham, Dorking RH5 6BY
Riders to arrive 8.30 am for a 9.00 am departure.
Pick up Clapham Common tea hut
Windmill Dr, London SW4
Riders to arrive by 10.00 am for a 10.30 am departure
North West London Start.
The Ace Cafe, Ace Corner, N Circular Rd, London NW10 7UD
Riders to arrive by 10.00 am for a 10.30.am departure
This is the earliest departure time from these venues.

The central London meeting point
Smith Square London SW1
Riders to arrive from 11.30 am for a 12 noon departure

All riders taking part in this event are expected to be riding vehicles that are fully road legal.
They take part at their own risk and do so knowing that the Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) are
not liable in any way for any accident while on the ride.
Riders are expected to ride within the law and obey road traffic rules and regulations. Anyone
found to be riding in an unsafe and illegal manner will be asked to leave the ride.
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595daytona
Birmingham,
United Kingdom

Posts: 3,649
Daytona T595


icon17 Apr 2018 18:32
I joined MAG back in the early nineties when I first started riding. But I found them to be so prejudiced towards sports bikes that it put me off. If you weren't part of the BSH reading, custom and rat bike riding, army surplus wearing, blues-rock cover band listening, pissing in a hedge at rallies, sucking on rollups and weed through your mangled few yellow teeth, girlfriends look like jailbird junkies, 'crusty' type scene, they didn't want to know you. I know they tried to change later on and encourage more 'mainstream' motorcyclists, but it was half hearted, and by then too late for me. I would never join again, and especially after the aforementioned power struggle and bullying behaviour.:frown:
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Mark Savage
Warwickshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,613
Enthusiast


icon19 Apr 2018 06:14
595daytona:
I joined MAG back in the early nineties when I first started riding. But I found them to be so prejudiced towards sports bikes that it put me off. If you weren't part of the BSH reading, custom and rat bike riding, army surplus wearing, blues-rock cover band listening, pissing in a hedge at rallies, sucking on rollups and weed through your mangled few yellow teeth, girlfriends look like jailbird junkies, 'crusty' type scene, they didn't want to know you. I know they tried to change later on and encourage more 'mainstream' motorcyclists, but it was half hearted, and by then too late for me. I would never join again, and especially after the aforementioned power struggle and bullying behaviour.:frown:


That about sums up how I felt too.
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5printst
east angular,
United Kingdom

Posts: 136
Thunderbird (10->)


icon20 Apr 2018 17:58
Update -

News from the Motorcycle Action Group (MAG)

CAMPAIGNERS VOW TO SHUT DOWN CENTRAL LONDON IN FIGHT AGAINST POLLUTION
AND ROAD DEATHS

2018 04 19


London’s motorcycling community is protesting against City Hall’s lack
of action in respect to rising motorcyclist deaths and against the
unfair Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) tax which looks set to make
pollution worse.

Led by the Motorcycle Action Group (MAG), London’s riders will hold a
city-wide day of action this Saturday 21 April to protest against the
Mayor’s policies, which are contributing to the mounting deaths of
Londoners who ride motorcycles and scooters.

Thousands of motorcyclists will descend on Westminster and then rally
near the Mayor’s Office, where they will be addressed by supporters,
including Peter Ramsbottom (Labour) and Keith Prince AM (Conservative).
Liberal Democrats declined the invitation to send a speaker. Mayor Sadiq
Khan also turned down the invitation.

Tim Fawthrop, MAG’s London Regional Representative, said: “For the last
two years we have been trying to get the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, to
uphold his pre-election promises and meet with us but he will not engage
in meaningful dialogue”.

Mother and London motorcyclist, Megan Anderson, said: “As a trainee
teacher and mother, money and time are tight. I use a motorbike to
commute because it’s cheap and quick. Using public transport is
cost-prohibitive and takes too long. I wouldn’t be able to get home in
time to pick my daughter up from nursery or be able to afford to send
her in the first place! A motorcycle is the perfect solution that means
I get to spend more time with my family, whilst also dedicating the time
and attention needed in order to learn to teach.”

A recent study has shown that the congestion charge has worsened the
pollution problem by forcing Londoners from cleaner personal transport
onto heavily-polluting diesel black cabs. Sadiq Khan’s ULEZ plans look
set to do the same thing, since he is planning to charge virtually zero
pollution motorcycles whilst exempting diesel-guzzling black cabs.

London Assembly Member, Keith Prince, a keen motorcyclist who plans to
attend the protest, said: "I just don't understand what Mayor Khan has
against motorcyclists. His Deputy, before taking office, said in her
report that Powered Two Wheelers were part of the solution to
congestion! Now City Hall seems to have declared war on motorbikes and
scooters. We know that many key workers are reliant on their bikes yet
Mayor Khan wants to tax them off the road! I just don't get it - it's
madness!”

Mr Prince added: “It could also expose the Mayor and TfL to the
possibility of legal action on the basis of discrimination, as he’s
disadvantaging the least wealthy in London’s workforce on the basis of
an illogical and punitive charge on small motorcycles”.



21st April 2018

# Motorcycles Matter Day of Action London

North East London

The Original Tea Hut, Loughton IG10 4HR
Arrive 8:30 am for 9:00 am departure

2 Rainbow Works, 21 Markfield Road, London N15 4RG Riders to arrive from 9:00 am for 9:30 departure

South East London Start
The Iron Horse, 122 Station Road, Sidcup DA15 7AB
Arrive 9:00 am for 9:30 departure

Pick up Blackheath Tea Hut
Goffers Road, Blackheath, London SE3 0UA
Riders to arrive from 9:30 am for 10:00 am departure


South West London Start

Rykas Café, Old London Road, Box Hill, Mickleham, Dorking RH5 6BY
Arrive 8:30 am for 9:00 departure

Pick up Krispy Kreme (Shannon Corner)
97 Burlington Road, New Malden, Surrey KT3 4NA Riders to arrive from 9:45 am for 10:15 departure

North West London
Start

The Ace Café, Ace Corner, North Circular Road, London NW10 7UD
Arrive 10:00 am for 10:30 am departure

Nb We will not leave any venue before the stated times
The Central London Meeting Point All Riders
Smith Square London SW1
Riders to arrive from 11:30 am for 12:00 noon departure

Destination
Burgess Park, Cobourg Road, London SE5
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ian
from the"mud people",
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 3,490
Daytona 955i (99-01)


icon20 Apr 2018 19:19
So, you dont want to make comment on some valid points made on here about MAG but just keep advertising something, which is a valid reason to protest, rather than try and change peoples perception of MAG. Not going to help is it to get your point across is it. My reason not to go all that way to protest is more personal feeling of London and being the centre of the universe to the rest of the country rather than where i live and work, so until Liverpool decide, if they do, bring in a congestion charge against motorbikes im more than happy for London to charge as they see fit.(personal choice)
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Obee Wan
Angles of the East,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Speed Triple T309


icon20 Apr 2018 22:53
Eh? - that blokes a nutta!:smirk::lol:
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