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PaulM
Northampton,
United Kingdom

Posts: 727
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon16 Dec 2017 21:48
As we are being shafted by the EU negotiators, how about this.:evil:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions...
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Gladtobebackontwowheels
Dover, Kent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 3,141
Daytona T595


icon16 Dec 2017 23:47
You're just trying to goad Strat aren't you.... :lol:
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Henpecked
Gtr Manchester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,621
Sprint ST (05->)


icon17 Dec 2017 00:04
The sooner Brexit is done the better.

Parliament was given their instruction via the referendum.

I've negotiated at many levels and the key is to know your position and that of the person or group opposite then find the compromise between the competing positions that satisfies both. The Uk are well poised as we know that WTO rules are the fall back position and on exit the EU can't impose anything in terms of legislation. We also import more than we export and are a net contributor to the EU pot.

If you have someone behind you saying "Ooh you cant do that" you only undermine your own position. Much as I dislike American politics I don't think anyone would argue that either party always puts America first when dealing with the outside world.

ALL Parties should now be supporting the government stance with any "deals" being kept under wraps until negotiations are done in order to get the best deal for the UK.

Anything less negates the value of Parliament in the process. Parliament sought the public view, got it and should now defend it and negotiate from there.

They shouldn't be fighting internally to overturn the decision. If they couldn't convince the british people around to their way of thinking when they had the opportunity during the campaign then improve next time.

It's about time all politicians put the country first. The opposition should challenge the party in power irrespective of the colour of the rosettes while decisions are being made in order to ensure all points have been covered and thought through. Once that's done respect the process and the decision don't continue to bleat when the rules were already agreed.
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Exuptoy
Maesteg, Mid Glam,
United Kingdom

Posts: 15,350
Daytona 675


icon17 Dec 2017 09:51
The Gov has already responded to the petition it seems.

Quote:
The country voted to leave the EU, and the Government is clear that there must be no attempts to remain inside the EU, no attempts to rejoin it through the back door, and no second referendum.
In leaving the EU the Government will seek the best deal for the UK maximising the benefits from leaving the EU – control over our borders, laws and money – while maintaining the greatest possible access to EU markets and continuing to work with our European neighbours on common problems. After withdrawal, the UK will bring an end to the direct jurisdiction of the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) in the United Kingdom.
The Prime Minister has been clear that the days of Britain making vast contributions to the European Union every year will end. The European Commission has set out the European Union’s position on the financial settlement, and the Government is undertaking a rigorous examination of the detail of this.
The Government has already introduced legislation to ensure the UK exits the EU with certainty, continuity and control. A smooth and orderly exit is in the national interest and further legislation will be introduced to deliver that.
Both the UK and the EU should want to achieve the best possible outcome and the strongest possible partnership for the future. The Government believes that a deep and special partnership between an independent UK and the EU is in the interests of both sides.
Department for Exiting the European Union
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X-Man
North Lincs,
United Kingdom

Posts: 25,175
Enthusiast


icon17 Dec 2017 11:27
Exuptoy:
The Gov has already responded to the petition it seems.

Quote:
The country voted to leave the EU, and the Government is clear that there must be no attempts to remain inside the EU, no attempts to rejoin it through the back door, and no second referendum.
In leaving the EU the Government will seek the best deal for the UK maximising the benefits from leaving the EU – control over our borders, laws and money – while maintaining the greatest possible access to EU markets and continuing to work with our European neighbours on common problems. After withdrawal, the UK will bring an end to the direct jurisdiction of the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) in the United Kingdom.
The Prime Minister has been clear that the days of Britain making vast contributions to the European Union every year will end. The European Commission has set out the European Union’s position on the financial settlement, and the Government is undertaking a rigorous examination of the detail of this.
The Government has already introduced legislation to ensure the UK exits the EU with certainty, continuity and control. A smooth and orderly exit is in the national interest and further legislation will be introduced to deliver that.
Both the UK and the EU should want to achieve the best possible outcome and the strongest possible partnership for the future. The Government believes that a deep and special partnership between an independent UK and the EU is in the interests of both sides.
Department for Exiting the European Union


In other words 'We, the government will continue to shaft you, the electorate, in as many ways as we can whilst appearing to do the best for you. Now please piss off and get back to where you belong at the bottom of the pile".
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PaulM
Northampton,
United Kingdom

Posts: 727
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon17 Dec 2017 12:05
Gladtobebackontwowheels:
You're just trying to goad Strat aren't you.... :lol:


Doh you found me out.:lol::lol:
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HalfaSheep
King Arthurs Country,
United Kingdom

Posts: 597
Enthusiast


icon18 Dec 2017 14:05
:thumbup:
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Hov
Sussex,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,497
Rocket III Classic (07-09)


icon18 Dec 2017 15:09
PaulM:
As we are being shafted by the EU negotiators, how about this.:evil:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions...

Signed it:thumbup:
Some say these things are a waste of time, but it only takes 10 seconds and the twats do need reminding that we did not vote for a soft Brexit.
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PaulM
Northampton,
United Kingdom

Posts: 727
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon18 Dec 2017 17:14
+ 20k signatures in 2 days did not know there where that many on here.:grin:
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X-Man
North Lincs,
United Kingdom

Posts: 25,175
Enthusiast


icon19 Dec 2017 15:39
Waiting 3 days for a debate date......don't hold your breath....
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Baldbloke
Moray,
United Kingdom

Posts: 3,214
Daytona T595


icon19 Dec 2017 16:22
Signed. :lol:
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Nice n Fat
Wilts, Berks & Hants,
United Kingdom

Bonneville (01-08)


icon21 Dec 2017 20:06
Excellent a Brexit thread :tongueout::thumbup:
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