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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon17 Jun 2012 21:42
Hi Guys,

I'm really thinking about having my T595 resprayed due to my foolish self dropping it on the drive and scratching the left hand fairing.

I called a local company who have quoted me a ball park figure £800 for a complete respray of the entire fairing with decals etc.

This seems a little steep to me, does anyone have an opinion on approximately what I should be paying?

I'm based in Worcester so I'm looking to get it done by someone relatively local.

Any advice is much appreciated, thanks a lot.
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JoHNY
Edinburgh,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 5,374
Daytona 955i (04-06)


icon17 Jun 2012 22:22
I did it myself and it cost me £30 for spray. The spraying part was easy it was the prep that was hard work. Days of rubbing but if you dinnae mind getting yer hands dirty, do it yersel. :thumbup:

I was asked to fork out £200 for just the tank. I told the guy he could stick his ask up his arse, greedy mutha f!$%er :angry:
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Blizzard
Coventry,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 51,831
Enthusiast


icon18 Jun 2012 00:02
How much are you getting resprayed ?

£800 seems a tad much just for the fairings
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon18 Jun 2012 01:56
sounds about right price for a fully faired bike and a full respray .... so long as it's a s!$% hot job that is.

I own a motorcycle spray shop and as johnny rightly says it's the prep that counts .... doesn't matter how good the painter is if the prep aint right.

if it's just the fairings (nose and two sides) then tell him to take a good run up before he jumps!!!

this is the sort odf stuff that i turn out.....

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grand for the full job

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more than a grand for a full harley

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free 'cause i sponsor the lad.... and he keeps smashing it to fickin bits (two offs in two meetings neither of which were his fault (I was there and had to watch some sgraggy ass backmarker t-bone the front 6 in a wild out braking dive))

I'm based up nurf in hull .... booked solid for the next month at least.... and proud to say i'm s!$% hot at what i do.

happy t give advice and point you in the right direction.

the harley tank picture is mid-job by the way!!!

http://www.motorcyclone.com or find me on facebook (motorcyclone)

this isn't a tout for work as i have far too much to do and it's a pain in the arse doing long distance jobs but if you need proper advice on how to paint it yourself or on what to expect when looking for the right person to do the job then all you have to do is ask!!:thumbup::grin:
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon18 Jun 2012 15:50
I'd need the...
tank
front fairing
side fairing l & r
bottom pan
tail
cowl...

6 bits prepped and painted... is that £800 worth?
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Blizzard
Coventry,
United Kingdom

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icon18 Jun 2012 17:11
Are you going for a colour change ?
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon18 Jun 2012 17:15
Blizzard:
Are you going for a colour change ?
I'm very tempted, since I'm after a whole respray I might as well?
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon18 Jun 2012 21:38
it's the same amount of work to do a colour change as the full panel has to be prepped for laquer regardless. The price sounds about right for a single colour plus decals (i stencil on in paint as decals are an expensive pain in the ass). depending on the amount of damage i would charge between 6 and 8 hundred for that job but i would also hand the job back with at least as high quality as standard factory paint.

Have you seen other examples of the guys work (in the flesh as photo's hide a multitude of sins)??
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon18 Jun 2012 21:43
I'd be happy to pay £600, I just felt £800 was too much, there is very minimal damage to the side fairing, just a scrape from where it went over on the drive from stationary.
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon18 Jun 2012 21:57
what colour is the bike???? if it is strontium yellow then get the colour changed as it is one of those impossible to match colours .... if it is any other colour you should be able to get just the one panel matched for no more than 150 quid and you are sorted. I would say haggle a bit with him (as a lot of my customers seem to try) but then again i have started telling customers that they get what they pay for and to come back in a month or two when they have saved the extra cash.

There is a hell of a lot of work involved in painting a bike properly and labour on bikes is no longer cheap with them now being luxury items as opposed to cheap forms of transport.
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon18 Jun 2012 22:20
Yeah it is a pearlescent yellow... I'm a bit of a perfectionist so I think I'll want the whole thing done.
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon18 Jun 2012 22:53
the only way to get it done right without a very lucky day in the spraybooth is to have the full bike done and i would strongly advise not going for strontium as you may end up in the same position should you be unfortunate enough to scratch it again. I have painted strontium yellow about five times now and the nearest i have got to a match is bloody close but not exact. There is a pearl yellow which lotus elises were painted in which is just as nice a colour and a lot easier to match if you want to keep it yellow.... i'll find out the name and code tomorrow for you .... think it is something like spice yellow but i will have to check.
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon18 Jun 2012 22:57
I may go for a totally different colour..
Not sure yet though.
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon18 Jun 2012 23:13
one of the american lads on here has done quite a sexy white one (not much chance of bumping into him at the ace wearing the same dress!!!)

aluminium silver is classy and easy to match, black looks hard as nails and red is another yellow marmite .... some love some hate. they did a dark green on later models which looks a bit cliche.

some pastel colours work well but can look a bit gay (powder blue is a good one but can be hit or miss)

and i've never seen one with a tasteful race replica (not a current team but a self designed jobber would work).

if you get an idea and i get any time send me an idea and i'll photoshop the job for you like the trebor zx7

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this was the photoshop of it and the customer changed his mind at last minute and got the black and white reversed..... didn't want it to look like a pack of mints but that is all i see when i look at it now!!!! customer was chuffed to bits and the bike looks ace..... if you like extra strong mints!!!:grin:
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon19 Jun 2012 07:27
I can't really think what colour I would like, I do like the darker orange colour of the new Daytonas but that's not really different.
Maybe I should try and convince my company to pay for the respray in return for it being done in their colours with decals! not likely and their colour is a disgusting green so maybe not the best idea lol

I'm not a fan of the race replica, something with a metal flake effect or similar could be good but I guess even more money!

Perhaps something like this LOL

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1963/ki...
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 82,409
Speed Triple 1050


icon19 Jun 2012 07:30
I like the Nissan chromaflair paint different colour in different lights
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon19 Jun 2012 07:43
Yeah, unfortunately though I think that's been done a few to many times by boy races on their saxos to look cool anymore :sad:
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon19 Jun 2012 11:45
and unfortunately if you scratch it it's a full respray to repair .... special finishes do look cool as but the bike ends up getting wrapped in cotton wool so it doesn't get scratched .... i usually charge about 1500 for special finishes as the prep needs to be 100% perfect and there is no chance of correcting a fcuk up. some of the new fine xyralic finishes are pretty sexy and versatile enough to match relatively easily

bmw rubinschwarz being a nice sexy black with a red cryatal flare in the sun ..... v sexy
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon19 Jun 2012 19:44
that rubinschwarz does look amazing! you think something like that would set me back 1500 notes? ;\
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon19 Jun 2012 20:59
not at all my man .... should come in at budget and is an easy enough colour to blend out if a spot repair is needed. As such it isn't really a special finish and for the amount of paint used the materials cost should only go up by about ten or twenty quid.

does look rather yummy though .... black until the sun hits it and then it is still black but with a very subtle shimmer.

If you can live with it till the end of the season as it is (or a couple of months to clear the backlog) I'll do it for you for £650 (extra 50 for logistics)seeing as you are a tt'er. we'll have to meet half way transport wise but tbh it can be couriered to me as it don't matter if it gets scratched in transit before it is painted. the turnaround time will be 3-4 weeks as i am a full time dad during the day and work nights to keep the business afloat until young betty is old enough to rub down panels during the day!! (enforced child labour is ok if you love them at the same time:grin:). gives you a while to save up and you will be saving money and getting work from another perfectionist.

alternatively it may be worth your while contacting pa on here as he is another reputable (from people on this site and i'm sure others outside it) painter too. based lancs i think.

or i will advise and offer help for free all day long.
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Guy G
Southport,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 311
Daytona T595


icon19 Jun 2012 23:01
My 595 was scrotum yellow & I decided to spray it red I used fords radiant red as its really easy to get so any mishaps can easily be fixed .The main thing with the red bikes is to get the correct decals with the silver centers & black out line as they set thecolour off well . I got mine from ragegraphics.co.uk & they did a nice job of the decals .Theres a couple of pics on my profile of how it came out if you want a look :thumbup: Just checked the pic out my self & remembered I also sprayed the frame satin black & polished the frlat bits around the swing arm spindle just to help set the red off a bit .God knows how I forgot Id stripped the entire bike down to its frame to spay it .lol
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Seb
Worcester,
United Kingdom

Posts: 122
Daytona T595


icon21 Jun 2012 12:03
I'll bear that in mind pwalo! I'm perhaps going to pop up to the local place tomorrow and see what sort of service they offer, time scales etc, and think about whether they're worth 80000 of my hard earned pence.
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boggy
devon,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 23
Daytona T595


icon22 Jun 2012 22:11
why dont you buy some second hand fairings in the same colour ? mine are for sale if your interested ! pm me !!
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pwalo
Yorkshire,
United Kingdom

Posts: 2,192
Sprint ST (99-01)


icon22 Jun 2012 22:23
boggy:
why dont you buy some second hand fairings in the same colour ? mine are for sale if your interested ! pm me !!


because if they are strontium yellow, painted in the same factory, by the same guy, using the same gun and the same paint from the same batch then they still won't match!!!!!

strontium yellow is everyones enemy!!!!
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