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Jonty
Braintree,
United Kingdom

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Posts: 28
Daytona T595


icon19 Apr 2012 17:59
Hi all

You might be interested in a starting upgrade I a have put on my T595 (97).

I was really worried about the sprag and my bike has always been fairly slow in turning over. However, one night on google and I came up with this upgrade.

Upgrades the wiring for battery to solenoid, solenoid to starter and the negative to engine earth lead and requires tank removal but only took 60 mins to fit - I used shrink wrap to cover the old wires, some was included but not enough. You do NOT need to cut or remove any of the existing loom.

My bike turns over quicker than it ever has and hopefully it will save the sprag and me money in not having to replace it.

Highly recommended - kit available via ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150446884574?s...

Website is Motoelectric.com

Might save some members money
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Riggsy
Coventry,
United Kingdom

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Posts: 35,221
Daytona 955i (02)


icon19 Apr 2012 18:21
Low loss (OFHC) copper :thumbup:


$90 is a bit pricey though. You'd get a similar improvement by just doubling up the existing cable.


NB: I seem to remember one of the "service recalls" on my bike when it was under warranty was to replace one of the starter motor connections.

Was this not the case with older models then?
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Exuptoy
Maesteg, Mid Glam,
United Kingdom

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Posts: 10,944
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon19 Apr 2012 18:22
Hi saw this mentioned in the T-Rat email from Triumph Motorcycles the other day. I think the guy is a cheeky f!$%er charging £50 for £15-£20 worth of kit. I'd source it myself from somewhere like my local electrical wholesalers or TLC online and just order 16 or 25 sq mm tails, (even come in the correct colours).

Done the Kawi ones on the Geep and even purchasing a large crimper to do up to 25mm it still only cost me £36.
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/SWR...
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Riggsy
Coventry,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 35,221
Daytona 955i (02)


icon19 Apr 2012 18:33
I work for the worlds biggest electrical connector company :smirk::tongueout:

If you ever want (only a couple, mind) of "bits", let me know and I'll see if I can help:thumbup::thumbup:
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Exuptoy
Maesteg, Mid Glam,
United Kingdom

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Posts: 10,944
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon19 Apr 2012 18:39
16 & 25mm crimps. Solder or crimp type, I don't mind Maybe solder ones better now I have my own crimper. Solder type take too much heat. Have to get the plumbing kit out.:thumbup:
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Jonty
Braintree,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 28
Daytona T595


icon19 Apr 2012 18:48
OK hear what everybody is saying. All i can say is that it certainly speeds up engine turning by a fair amount - to my mind £47 is a fair price for something you just bolt-on
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Koro
Severn Valley,
United Kingdom

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Posts: 2,309
Speed Triple T309


icon19 Apr 2012 18:59
Jonty - good post, at least it brings the issue to people's attention. Not everyone knows much about electrics ( like me ):blush: so if a kit makes the job easier, its worth the premium price.
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

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Posts: 82,269
Speed Triple 1050


icon19 Apr 2012 19:03
easy to do with the right kit, well for a sparky anyway :blush:
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doomus
stoke on trent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,108
Daytona T595


icon19 Apr 2012 19:29
I could really do with one of these kits as my bike does sometimes struggle to turn over..anyone know of a UK seller or similar?
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Riggsy
Coventry,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 35,221
Daytona 955i (02)


icon19 Apr 2012 19:59
I'm not 'dissing' the solution, just questioning it's profit margin:tongueout::lol::lol:
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Danny
SE Wales,
United Kingdom

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Posts: 2,357
America (02->)


icon19 Apr 2012 21:34
~EARL~:
easy to do with the right kit, well for a sparky anyway :blush:


So Earl who would you get to do the job for you then?:lol::tongueout::smirk:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 82,269
Speed Triple 1050


icon19 Apr 2012 21:37
im an instrument technician i dont get my hands dirty:tongueout:
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doomus
stoke on trent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,108
Daytona T595


icon19 Apr 2012 21:42
I wish id seen this this morning..woulda ordered a kit rather than a chain for my other bike...sods law.
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Tater
Dont Mess With Texas,
USA

Premier Member
Posts: 2,882
Daytona T595


icon20 Apr 2012 03:10
I'm no electronics expert but this looks to be a pretty straight forward setup. I would just go to the local hardware store and pick up the necessary pieces to make this myself...:thumbup:
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j p
ma,,
USA

Premier Member
Daytona 955i (02CE, 03)


icon20 Apr 2012 11:52
yawn repost:tongueout:
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doomus
stoke on trent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,108
Daytona T595


icon20 Apr 2012 12:12
Does anyone know the thickness of the cable needed?
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Exuptoy
Maesteg, Mid Glam,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 10,944
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon20 Apr 2012 12:43
The kit being sold is 4awg which equates to 19sqmm. Unfortunatey the uk market doesn't sell 19mm. Either 16mm stranded or 25mm unless you can get 4awg (american wire gauge):thumbup: Try to make sure it is tri-rated if using standard electrical cable as it has many fine strands and is flexible instead of stiff with few large strands.
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doomus
stoke on trent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,108
Daytona T595


icon20 Apr 2012 12:46
Cheers
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Exuptoy
Maesteg, Mid Glam,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 10,944
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon20 Apr 2012 13:16
Here's the link I found. Started by our very own D'Ecosse.
http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple-f...
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D'Ecosse
Pleasanton CA,
USA

Premier Member
Posts: 2,141
Daytona 955i (02CE, 03)


icon20 Apr 2012 14:10
It was posted on here too

http://www.triumphtorque.com/messageboar...

(excuse the photo problem - someone obvioulsy downloaded a bunch of pics from my PhotoBucket account and exceeded the free bandwidth :angry: - pics will be restored at end of next week)

Here's the video that illustrates the difference before & after

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKGfWqwDD...

(I left the bike in gear with side-stand down, clutch disengaged, so it would not start to illustrate the cranking speed)
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doomus
stoke on trent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,108
Daytona T595


icon20 Apr 2012 14:13
Still gonna be pricey when buyin crimping tool which wont get used again:frown: getting paranoid about my sprag so gotta do something..am considering taking the daytona off of the road until I can sort something out...and thats my only transport right now:sad:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 82,269
Speed Triple 1050


icon20 Apr 2012 14:16
have you fitted a motobatt, i did that to mine improved the cranking no end, didnt bother upgrading the wiring as it wasnt required
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doomus
stoke on trent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,108
Daytona T595


icon20 Apr 2012 14:21
yep had a brandnew motobatt within the last 3 months and aint made no difference. I went out to Asda about an hour ago and had the metallic clunk when starting:cry:
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Exuptoy
Maesteg, Mid Glam,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 10,944
Speed Triple 955i (02-04)


icon20 Apr 2012 14:22
Thats some difference there D'Ecosse!:thumbup:
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~EARL~
gods country wales,
United Kingdom

Premier Member
Posts: 82,269
Speed Triple 1050


icon20 Apr 2012 14:45
could be that the sprag is failing already :speechless:
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doomus
stoke on trent,
United Kingdom

Posts: 1,108
Daytona T595


icon20 Apr 2012 14:47
cheers for that Earl:sick:
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