My bike's currently at the dealer's because it's dead (won't start and if it does start, won't run). It was running fine last time I rode it, then just wouldn't start a week later. It's 2010 bike and only done 1800 f!$%ing miles.
They've done a diagnostic report and sent that to Triumph, but both teh dealer and Hinckley so far don't know what the problem is.
It's looking like it might need a new ECU. At this point Triumph have turned round and said they aren't covering this under warranty because I put the tune for the Arrow system in with Tune ECU rather than letting a dealer do it, and they're saying this could have damaged the ECU.
This is patently bulls!$% and just Triumph trying to get out of a warranty claim, as usual, because it's turned into something complicated and potentially expensive.
The tune I installed is the OEM tune 20591, from the Tune ECU website, which presumably hundreds of owners are running around using, without their ECU dying. There's no possible way this tune has damaged the ECU as the bike's been running perfectly for 500 miles since I fitted the exhaust and installed the tune. If there was something somehow wrong with this tune that could damage an ECU then it would've happened when I first installed it, not 500 miles later.
So, for ammunition, can anyone confirm where the OEM tunes on the Tune ECU website came from. I'm guessing they were copied from the ECUs of bikes that had dealer installed tunes.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, because I can't afford a four figure bill for a new ECU.
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I have only had limited success with Triumph warrenty dept in the past,Very helpful when they cant `wriggle out`otherwise almost `beligerent` in attitude
It's complete bollocks, Tim. They're just looking for an excuse to avoid fixing their shoddy f!$%ing product because it's turned into something more complicated and expensive. Standard Triumph practice
Hi, would have happened if during the transmission of the card fails, then the engine could be started at all.
Since the bike but worked 500 miles without complaint, it is nonsense to search at the error TuneECU.
Here, the manufacturer tries to escape the warranty obligation.
Of course there is always a risk when one period of the warranty on the motorcycle itself changes by itself. Because then the manufacturer can refuse any warranty claims.
As I have already told you via PM, send an email to the programmer of TuneECU (Alain), perhaps he can answer their questions. I'm just the operator from the website and I have on the programming no knowledge.
Mr Brightside: Hoping someone can help me with a big problem.
My bike's currently at the dealer's because it's dead (won't start and if it does start, won't run). It was running fine last time I rode it, then just wouldn't start a week later. It's 2010 bike and only done 1800 f!$%ing miles.
They've done a diagnostic report and sent that to Triumph, but both teh dealer and Hinckley so far don't know what the problem is.
It's looking like it might need a new ECU. At this point Triumph have turned round and said they aren't covering this under warranty because I put the tune for the Arrow system in with Tune ECU rather than letting a dealer do it, and they're saying this could have damaged the ECU.
This is patently bulls!$% and just Triumph trying to get out of a warranty claim, as usual, because it's turned into something complicated and potentially expensive.
The tune I installed is the OEM tune 20591, from the Tune ECU website, which presumably hundreds of owners are running around using, without their ECU dying. There's no possible way this tune has damaged the ECU as the bike's been running perfectly for 500 miles since I fitted the exhaust and installed the tune. If there was something somehow wrong with this tune that could damage an ECU then it would've happened when I first installed it, not 500 miles later.
So, for ammunition, can anyone confirm where the OEM tunes on the Tune ECU website came from. I'm guessing they were copied from the ECUs of bikes that had dealer installed tunes.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, because I can't afford a four figure bill for a new ECU.
Typical is all I can say and about the same on this side of the pond as well. A couple of things. I NEVER let the dealer work on any motorcycle I have owned. Likely your ECU has nothing to do with your no start. If you get no joy frome the dealer, get the bike home and try to fix it yourself with some coaching here.
To help you, we need more info about the no start issue. 1. What is your static battery voltage? 2. Will the starter turn the motor over only the motor won't fire?
If the starter won't turn the motor over, it almost certainly is unrelated to your ECU.
Also..and perhaps someone here can address this...how can the dealer determine that 'you' loaded the map? You loaded a factory Triumph tune it sounds like. And yes it is complete BS what they are doing. Again it is likely completely unrelated to your ECU. Answer questions 1 and 2 and we will help you get the bike running. Stay positive. Again, if the dealer won't help...you can also try another dealer but get the bike out of there if they are unwilling to help. Good Luck.
I tried everything i could do before calling teh dealer. When you press the starter you just get a click from the relay and a brief attempt from the starter motor, if you keep it held down it doesnt keep cranking. Occasionally it will start, but then just die.
Battery voltage was 12.97, voltage with engine running 14.3v.
The dealer and Triumph so far don't even have a conclusive diagnosis. Seems they're assuming its the ECU, because they can't find any other fault. Now that it's turned complicated and potentially expensive, Triumph are looking for an excuse not to do anything. As for getting the bike out of the dealer, they want paying for the 3 hours already spent on the bike, either from me or Triumph, and I'm not paying for labour on a bike that's under warranty - as I said to them today, this was booked in as a warranty job, not a billable job.
f!$%ing pissed off, wish to god I'd never set eyes on this f!$%ing bike.
Your dealer has ever tried to start your Street Triple with a different ECU? That would be the easiest way to determine if your ECU is faulty.
BR, Tom
That's what I suggested, but he's reluctant to do that in case it somehow damages another ECU, and doesn't want to do any more work on the bike until either Triumph or myself say we're goingto pay for it, and I'm certainly not paying.
do you know any you could lend ecu off to try it!!!
As for the dealer, I was a service manager for a motorcycle dealer and the problem you will have is trying to prove that you have not done the damage to the ecu..
How many times have they tryed to fix the bike?? How do they know you installed the tune yourself(unless you told them)...
Have you been a regular customer to them in the past??
Also reading throw your other post, have you tryed putting standard can and code back to see if that helps???
I tried everything i could do before calling teh dealer. When you press the starter you just get a click from the relay and a brief attempt from the starter motor, if you keep it held down it doesnt keep cranking. Occasionally it will start, but then just die.
Battery voltage was 12.97, voltage with engine running 14.3v.
The dealer and Triumph so far don't even have a conclusive diagnosis. Seems they're assuming its the ECU, because they can't find any other fault. Now that it's turned complicated and potentially expensive, Triumph are looking for an excuse not to do anything. As for getting the bike out of the dealer, they want paying for the 3 hours already spent on the bike, either from me or Triumph, and I'm not paying for labour on a bike that's under warranty - as I said to them today, this was booked in as a warranty job, not a billable job.
f!$%ing pissed off, wish to god I'd never set eyes on this f!$%ing bike.
Here's the thing. Your battery is relatively strong and when running your stator seems to be putting out the right voltage. Batteries can read like they are OK but not take much load. You say you tested it on your Bandit so I have to conclude your battery is OK. In any event, trickle charge it to full capacity. You seem to have either a loose wire or a short although no blown fuses because all of your battery voltage doesn't seem to be reaching your starter....it is leaching somewhere. Three things...unless your battery is low...you have three unrelated issues: 1. Not cranking the motor strongly prior to start. With a strong battery, that means a loose wire or loss of voltage aka a short...nothing to do wth CPS or ECU. 2. CPS fault code. This would directly affect engine performance. It is not a binary failure as Decosse suggested. Your CPS can be marginal and not blatantly failing causing your poor motor performance. 3. ECU: I would say this is your 'lowest probability'. The dealer is looking for an excuse only to not service your bike. I am sorry to say but half the techs working on bikes are idiots. Your ECU would NOT affect the spinnning of the starter.
Next? You need the bike home of course. You need to check all of the connections throughout the starter circuit. You may have a loose ground or earth as you call it. Sounds as though the motor is not receiving the voltage the battery has to offer and my conclusion is...a wire is loose or shorting to another. Reflect on anything you have done to the bike since the issue. Has it gotten wet? Have you detailed it? My guess is the wiring has been disturbed. Have you made any handlebar or control changes?
Lastly....the CPS code issue is unrelated to the bike's inability to crank for a good period...you say it peters out when cranking. Full voltage not reaching the ECU will affect the code your ECU throws as Decosse stated....therefore your CPS maybe ok. Check every wire in your starting circuit. If you don't have the manual on CD for your Street3, get one. Your bike has the symptoms of a bad battery but you say the battery is good. EFI bikes won't start or run right with a weak battery and throw bogus codes. But...you say the battery works fine on another bike. One can only conclude the voltage your battery has is not reaching either the ECU and/or engine.
For a period of more than four years my '06 Speed III intermittently had starting problems. At one stage it sat at the local dealership for more than three weeks. Another Triumph dealership some 100 kms away also tried in vain to identify and fix the problem. Each tried and failed!
After much diagnostic help from Tom and D'Ecosse, I eventually traced the fault to the Fuel Pump relay which sometimes would work and at other times would fail. Later, I had a similar intermittent fault with both the Starter circuit and Headlight relays. Solution: I replaced every Hella relay (4- and 5-pin) under the seat with a premium-quality diode suppressed equivalent. Problem solved!
Mr Brightside: ...can anyone confirm where the OEM tunes on the Tune ECU website came from. I'm guessing they were copied from the ECUs of bikes that had dealer installed tunes.
While I am not at liberty to confirm or deny their origination, the Triumph OEM tune maps on the TuneECU website are exactly that: OEM tune maps in *.hex format. As we say in South Africa with regard to our famous All Gold Tomato Sauce, the tune maps are without preservatives, colourants or thickeners!
I was holding my tongue when you posted but somehow I knew Triumph was going to try and f!$% you over!! they do tell you modifications can void the warranty!!
I can understand a glitch in the tune ecu mapping causing the trouble, but I cant see how tune ecu would fry the brain?
Have they evan tried downloading a Triumph map?
get your bike back home...test ride another and swap the ecu
SA_Rider: For a period of more than four years my '06 Speed III intermittently had starting problems. At one stage it sat at the local dealership for more than three weeks. Another Triumph dealership some 100 kms away also tried in vain to identify and fix the problem. Each tried and failed!
After much diagnostic help from Tom and D'Ecosse, I eventually traced the fault to the Fuel Pump relay which sometimes would work and at other times would fail. Later, I had a similar intermittent fault with both the Starter circuit and Headlight relays. Solution: I replaced every Hella relay (4- and 5-pin) under the seat with a premium-quality diode suppressed equivalent. Problem solved!
SA_Rider: For a period of more than four years my '06 Speed III intermittently had starting problems. At one stage it sat at the local dealership for more than three weeks. Another Triumph dealership some 100 kms away also tried in vain to identify and fix the problem. Each tried and failed!
After much diagnostic help from Tom and D'Ecosse, I eventually traced the fault to the Fuel Pump relay which sometimes would work and at other times would fail. Later, I had a similar intermittent fault with both the Starter circuit and Headlight relays. Solution: I replaced every Hella relay (4- and 5-pin) under the seat with a premium-quality diode suppressed equivalent. Problem solved!
Mr Brightside: ...can anyone confirm where the OEM tunes on the Tune ECU website came from. I'm guessing they were copied from the ECUs of bikes that had dealer installed tunes.
While I am not at liberty to confirm or deny their origination, the Triumph OEM tune maps on the TuneECU website are exactly that: OEM tune maps in *.hex format. As we say in South Africa with regard to our famous All Gold Tomato Sauce, the tune maps are without preservatives, colourants or thickeners!
This issue of the OP does seem a bit less dodgy than intermittent but you raise an excellent point. OP before you change out everything..certainly remove each relay and reinstall. Most of these bikes are gunked with di-electric paste which is a non conductve media. Sometimes removal and reinserting relays fixes an entire issue. OP be sure to post about what you have recently done to the bike. Is it left outside in the rain?...ride it thru a rain storm. Do you wash it with a hose etc. My sense is your lack of solid voltage to the starter is the same culprit why your engine will barely fire. You aren't getting proper voltage to the ignition system and/or ECU.
Well I'm too tired and f!$%ed off to post any detail tonight, but in sort the situation is now this. As of this afternoon the bike is supposedly fixed and the problem was a failed manifold air pressure sensor. Triumph (Mark Swepson) say this is my fault and are refusing to honour the warranty, so the dealer has my bike and wants £334 (almost all of which is labour - why the f!$% did it take so long to diagnose a simple sensor failure?), which I don't have.
Dealer has given me a switchboard phone number for Hinckley, but won't give me an email address for this Swepson. Need to try speak to him tomorrow, but apparently he's adamant they're not paying. Seems Mr Swepson thinks losing a customer for life for the sake of a £334 warranty claim is good business practice. What Mr Swepson doesn't know is that I work at head office of the country's biggest retailer of motorcycle clothing with 48 branches, so the by the time I've moaned to all them when they phone, and they've gossiped to their customers who then gossip to their friends that's a f!$%ing big ever expanding network of bad publicity for them, and if it costs them the sale of one bike that's more than my £334 they've lost.
Need to speak to trading standards too, to see if there's any legal grounds for not paying for work that I didn't agree to be done on a chargeable basis - this was booked in as a warranty job, not a chargeable one.
This bike has been nothing but grief from day one, with all the hassle at A1 Moto. I wish I'd never set eyes on it and I'm sick of the sight of it, I don't even want it anymore.
Mr Brightside: Well I'm too tired and f!$%ed off to post any detail tonight, but in sort the situation is now this. As of this afternoon the bike is supposedly fixed and the problem was a failed manifold air pressure sensor. Triumph (Mark Swepson) say this is my fault and are refusing to honour the warranty, so the dealer has my bike and wants £334 (almost all of which is labour - why the f!$% did it take so long to diagnose a simple sensor failure?), which I don't have.
Dealer has given me a switchboard phone number for Hinckley, but won't give me an email address for this Swepson. Need to try speak to him tomorrow, but apparently he's adamant they're not paying. Seems Mr Swepson thinks losing a customer for life for the sake of a £334 warranty claim is good business practice. What Mr Swepson doesn't know is that I work at head office of the country's biggest retailer of motorcycle clothing with 48 branches, so the by the time I've moaned to all them when they phone, and they've gossiped to their customers who then gossip to their friends that's a f!$%ing big ever expanding network of bad publicity for them, and if it costs them the sale of one bike that's more than my £334 they've lost.
Need to speak to trading standards too, to see if there's any legal grounds for not paying for work that I didn't agree to be done on a chargeable basis - this was booked in as a warranty job, not a chargeable one.This bike has been nothing but grief from day one, with all the hassle at A1 Moto. I wish I'd never set eyes on it and I'm sick of the sight of it, I don't even want it anymore.
Sad. All the way around. Poor communication. I highlighted what would be a major point of contention if it were me. They had no right to perform the work without your authorization outside of warranty. Basically what you describe is a case study in why many HATE dealerships. Some work in good faith but many don't. I would definitely contact Hinkley and tell them about the dealer's business practice in particular. The last thing is....and I don't want to depress you further..but you mentioned the bike wouldn't crank very long. Perhaps the battery has worn down by lack of running but a MAP sensor has nothing to do with the bike's inability to crank. Also...what on earth could you have done to the bike to spoil the MAP sensor? It is clearly a warranty issue if you ask me. Your dealer sucks all the way around. This is why I virtually never set foot in a dealer. If you get no joy from either the dealer or Hinkley, I suggest you pay them a visit wth some of your friends. A suggestion is hang out in the showroom and kill a few new bike sales. When they kick you out, hang out in front of the dealer for a while and tell a few customers what you think about their service. This practice sometimes gets results. Settle the score and then don't go back.
DID YOU sign the paper work when you booked your bike in??????
If not than you didn't give permission for them to touch your bike and have fixed it with out your say so!!!
Ihad a mate get away with it as never signed the booking in form....
Plus phone triumph up and and kick off, not don't be affaird to tell them where you work and also, if it was a sensor why there diog tool not pick it up. and why under warrenty there are charging you labour. There the dealer say to you that if not coverd under warrent you would have to pay???? Did they contact you and say it was not coverd by warernty before they fixed it....
Sorry for all the hassle Mr. Brightside. Was the MAP sensor physically damaged or just electronically inop? I'm surprised the ECU didn't throw a code. Or did it, and is that how they figured it out?
j p: where is the map sensor? and what does it do? .I Looked in a repair manual and cant find it or any codes relating to it?
That's because you don't have one - it only applies to the Kehin equipped bikes.
I'm not sure how much blame the dealer has here - they are at mercy of Triumph. Perhaps they could make a more compelling case on your behalf, but at the end of the day, they want to be paid by someone for their time & effort & materials. This of course SHOULD be Triumph. Legally however, whether they can get all (or any) of the billing they submitted to you will depend on what/if you 'signed' up for.
In the US regardless of the disclaimer they put in the manual, magnuson moss warranty act places the onus on the warranter (Triumph) to prove whatever modification was done ACTUALLY caused the failure, if they try to deny. i.e. The owner does not have to prove it did not.
I agree with Rob's advice above, keep it calm and ask to speak to the next higher cog in the chain if you don't get satisfactory result.
Point out to Mr Swepson, that, whilst you agree in principal that you shouldn't be uploading Tunes to the Bikes ECU ( something Triumph only should be doing, in the warranty period) potentially hundred, if not thousands of people are doing just this.....and having NO ECU/related problems with their Bikes.
Also point out that you have posted information ( for help) regarding this issue, on this forum and many, many former/present, mechanics/electrical experts have agreed that uploading a Tune/Map to the Bikes ECU should have no effect on a mechanical component, such as the map sensor, outside the ECU......after all, we are not talking 'engine damage' due to incorrect tune....which would be entirely your fault.......
That way, you could point him to THIS thread, which is being followed by potentially many THOUSANDS of former/present/future Triumph owners, who are all eagerly awaiting a just and even outcome....
Might be worth a shot, after all, what is the point of a Triumph based discussion forum, if, at sometimes, we can't have input/relevance to Triumph employees of the potential audience on such a forum as this...........
I thought triumph hated this forum..at least the dealers must?.I think it is safe to say, the tips,tricks and GOOD advice on the boards here have cost the dealers thousands
j p: I thought triumph hated this forum..at least the dealers must?.I think it is safe to say, the tips,tricks and GOOD advice on the boards here have cost the dealers thousands
I think ALL bike related forums are probably a thorn in the side, not just Triumph, look at the BMW GS forums and the debacle going on over there for broken front wheel hub claims.....
notwithstanding, it HAS to be a good thing for the consumer to have these places to deal with not only the bad experiences, but the good..
If I was a major Triumph dealer, and really cared about the marque, I would watch/post on these boards regularly.............
I understand the dealer's point of view (but I think his mechanic has been incompetent in taking so long to diagnose the fault), he wants paying, either by me or Triumph, but I never gave any kind of authorisation for chargeable work to be carried out, and have signed nothing. I was not warned when booking the bike in that there could be a bill to pay if Triumph did not honour their warranty obligations, and now feel my bike is basically being held to ransom.
Reading the DTI Traders Guide, it suggests that if a manufacturer does not honour a warranty then the consumer can attempt to recover costs through the small claims court (against the manufacturer, not dealer). If I have to pay to recover my bike then I will certainly be looking at this. If I issue a summons then somebody from hinckley has to take a day off, drive up here and attend court, and IIRC if they don't attend the court rules in my favour by default.
That WOULD be a problem, have to add criminal damage to the claim......
easy enough though, with a bit of balls and some subterfuge, arrange to pick up the Bike, tell them you need to have a looksy at it, simply jump on it, and ride off, you CANNO'T be prosecuted for stealing your own property......it would then become a civil (court) matter
Just saying, if you feel so aggrieved........
If I can do it, twice, then anyone can, my balls are no bigger than anyone elses............
Not yet. Dealer wouldn't give me his email address, so I googled his name at work today and found his email address - posted on a thread on another forum by someone else who'd encountered his f!$% you approach to customer service.
just in the interest of goodwill and good communications, you understand............
Not a very good approach to customer service if he's not readily available and easy to contact, is it........
Wouldn't last ten minutes in the cutthroat ( I s!$% you not!) chocolate world.........
Mr Brightside: Not yet. Dealer wouldn't give me his email address, so I googled his name at work today and found his email address - posted on a thread on another forum by someone else who'd encountered his f!$% you approach to customer service.
Is he the Pope, 007 perhaps, covert MI5 operative??
My flabber is gasted
I'd be outside that particular dealer right now with a BIG fluoro sign explaining all my grievances......couple of days of that, I bet theyd at least enter into dialogue with you.......
I mean, i'm sure at this point you are more than happy to except some sort of compromise..........not saying you are at fault, old chap.........
Good luck.............to both sides in reaching a mutually beneficial agreement
Frank Jones: Point out to Mr Swepson, that, whilst you agree in principal that you shouldn't be uploading Tunes to the Bikes ECU ( something Triumph only should be doing, in the warranty period) potentially hundred, if not thousands of people are doing just this.....and having NO ECU/related problems with their Bikes.
Also point out that you have posted information ( for help) regarding this issue, on this forum and many, many former/present, mechanics/electrical experts have agreed that uploading a Tune/Map to the Bikes ECU should have no effect on a mechanical component, such as the map sensor, outside the ECU......after all, we are not talking 'engine damage' due to incorrect tune....which would be entirely your fault.......
That way, you could point him to THIS thread, which is being followed by potentially many THOUSANDS of former/present/future Triumph owners, who are all eagerly awaiting a just and even outcome....
Might be worth a shot, after all, what is the point of a Triumph based discussion forum, if, at sometimes, we can't have input/relevance to Triumph employees of the potential audience on such a forum as this...........
Point being, the issue isn't even ECU related and installing a factory tune via TuneECU is really irrelevant. Also based upon previous explanation of poor cranking and CPS sensor code, I would have zero confidence changing the Map sensor is even the root cause. In summary...not only is the dealer f-ing with the customer over out of pocket versus warranty cost, the bike may not even be fixed. This can only be determined by the owner riding the bike for a couple of days. It typically comes down the personalities involved. If the dealer just wants to hardball the customer you have an uphill climb. If this is the case, then he has to take the next step...determine legal recourse etc....and let the dealer know after amicable discussion has lapsed what steps will be taken.
Point being, the issue isn't even ECU related and installing a factory tune via TuneECU is really irrelevant. Also based upon previous explanation of poor cranking and CPS sensor code, I would have zero confidence changing the Map sensor is even the root cause. .
My thoughts exactly. I wonder if they did find the problem and are embarrased by the fact that it was a faulty part and their incompetence to find it and took the easy way out blaming it on the owner.
Point being, the issue isn't even ECU related and installing a factory tune via TuneECU is really irrelevant. Also based upon previous explanation of poor cranking and CPS sensor code, I would have zero confidence changing the Map sensor is even the root cause. .
My thoughts exactly. I wonder if they did find the problem and are embarrased by the fact that it was a faulty part and their incompetence to find it and took the easy way out blaming it on the owner.
Lets say that is the dynamic at play. The dealer is trying to weazel out by saying the bike was 'tampered' with by using TuneECU to load an alternative factory map. I would like to know how the dealer determined the owner loaded an alternative factory map? Could the dealer deduce this by the file name of the map when using the factory software? Or....did they surmise the owner loaded the map because they are the only dealer within a broad distance and their records didn't show they loaded another map? Part of blaming the owner for this issue is related to the owner 'not paying' the dealer to install an alternative map...lost revenue. Of course its feasible that the owner loaded a bad map. But this is easily deduced and resolved by loading another map. Here is a case where the dealer just wants to blame the customer. They have comercial recourse with Triumph for warranty reimbursement. Triumph acts upon what the dealer tells them. This issue can easily be handled within a warranty claim.
Well Triumoh aren't budging. After two lengthy emails all I got was a perfunctory f!$% you reply. spoke to Peter Clarke after that, what an arrogant c!$%. Not remotely interested in making any kind of goodwill gesture to retain a customer. With poorly built and unreliable products, shoddy dealers and arrogant c!$%s like that in charge, it's small wonder that Triumph have such a poor reputation for customer service.
All I can do now is try agree a compromise figure with the dealer to get the bike back from them. Most I'm willing to pay is the part, plus the three hours labour that were done before Triumph first said they wouldn't honour the warranty - at that point I spoke to the dealer who said the job was basically on hold unil he knew who was paying. I gave no instruction to carry on after that point and wouldn't have agreed to it until the dispute was resolved - he was suposed to be referring to Swepson then getting abck to me, so I don't see why i should pay for the labour after that point.
I just want to get the piece of British s!$% back, get all the extras stripped off it and get it sold.
They are silly buggers. See if you can forward all this on to the big boss, Mr Bloor. Let him know how much they are stuffing you around and the poor service levels by dealer and Triumph staff.
I will say many times people get what they deserve, but this doesn't seem to be one of those times. Mr. Brightside, I have read your posts and you seem like a thoughtful man. Many that get f-ed over by a dealer not supporting warranty I will say is due to the billigerence of the owner. I believe this has run its course. All you can do is get bke out of there. If you can determine which MAP sensor it is...the Street3 may have multiple, then you don't even need any further involvement from the dealer. Pull the bike out ad work on it yourself. Bottom line is your bike is broken and inexlicably, your dealer will not support the warranty. This is no different than if your bike were out of warranty in other words. Me? I would be the last guy to take a bike to a dealership for repair because you end up paying through the nose many times for something the bike doesn't even need. When you get the bike back a if you decide to not have them repair it and you perform a code scan wich you can with TuneECU and you do not get a MAP sensor code, I would not replace it. I wouldn't believe a word out of your dealer's mouth or trust their technical assessment. Further I will say about dealers working on bikes, yes they will scratch them. For the couple of issues on my '09 Bonneville that could have been handled under warranty....I did myself to keep the dealer from f-ing up my bike. These bikes are not that complex to fix. OBDII computers spout fault codes and with a solid battery are pretty much self diagnosing. Most of the sensors on the bike are easy to get to and change. Sensors fail...both infantly and long term. Obtain a service manual for the bike and use the bike as a learning opportunity. A Street3 is a wonderful motorcycle. Better days ahead and stay positive.