I've checked them before, they're OK. My bike has got a lowering linkage in so need to change that back to the standard one anyway. Got 3/4s of the way through doing it then couldn't get one of the bolts out.
I know how to do it now, so that is on next week's jobs list (will grease them too), along with the exhaust and disabling the SAI.
Its the new Scorpion full race system for the Street Triple. We have been working with Scorpion on a system to use in our Street Triple Cup Race Series.
Eww, that's ugleee (and appears to be mounted to the pillion hangers which a lot of people ditch - mine came straight off, hideous things). Is it too late to go back to the drawing board, lol?
Blizzard: If it's for the race series why is it being mounted on something that's going to be ditched ?
Exactly what I was thinking, racers will have nothing to mount it to, surely? The can looks ok, but the link pipe and overall positioning is an abomination, it looks horrendous. Still yet to see any other exhaust for the Street that's anything like as nice (or integrated) as the Arrow lowboy.
I think it'll blow a bit too, unless you weld those cuts up
Surely your missing the point here chaps. What they have been working with Scorpion on here is a Full Race System, which presumably is designed to provide optimum race performance and only be used on a Track bike and not on the road, so aesthetics is not neccessarily a determining factor in the final outcome here is it?
Andy: Surely your missing the point here chaps. What they have been working with Scorpion on here is a Full Race System, which presumably is designed to provide optimum race performance and only be used on a Track bike and not on the road, so aesthetics is not neccessarily a determining factor in the final outcome here is it?
The Arrow lowboy is a full race system, but still looks gorgeous. And doesn't bolt to parts that will have been removed on a racebike (or roadbike too, if you have taste, lol).
New tire mounted, balanced and back on bike. The guy that did it charged me 40.00 to do it because I didn't buy the tire from him. Does this sound reasonable or should I go to someone else next time?. He has done a lot of work for me in the past and it kind of bothers me that he would now penalize me for not buying from him. I know that he has to make a living also but he will just over prise me on other work in the future maybe.
I reckon you wuz stitched up. I'd say £25-£30 would be acceptable. They all play that trick regarding you didn't buy it from me. Personally next time I'd tell him I can the the tyres for x amount plus your fitting, can you supply and fit for less? Then you'd know whether you've been stitched up
Just been out and washed the bike (should have done it a fortnight ago after I had been out but I didn't and when I went away the next day it was all covered in salt, although I did give it a wipe down with a rag with ACF50 on it the morning I went but it's not the same as a good wash is it?). Cold while washing it down but still nice to be out in the sun washing the bike.
But not the rest of the population Ade. My last pair cost me around £30 IIRC and I know the guys at the shop. The gaffer told me that same that he could have matched the price including his fitting.
That wasn't any special price for me, just standard rate. £30 for fitting to loose wheels? That's taking the piss. Most places will fit to the bike for that (or less).
That wasn't any special price for me, just standard rate. £30 for fitting to loose wheel. Most places will fit to the bike for that (or less).
I don't know any bike shops that will charge £30 for removal and fitting two tyres , dealers charge at least that per end. BMW charged my mate £340 for supplying and fitting two Sportsmart tyres ( and £180 for front brake pads ). I would have thought Sportsmarts are somewhere in the region of £250 to buy only, so that equates to arond £90 fitting. Locally I think £10 for fitting and balance per loose tyre is the norm, "maybe" a little cheaper if you buy the tyres of them
That wasn't any special price for me, just standard rate. £30 for fitting to loose wheel. Most places will fit to the bike for that (or less).
I don't know any bike shops that will charge £30 for removal and fitting two tyres , dealers charge at least that per end. BMW charged my mate £340 for supplying and fitting two Sportsmart tyres ( and £180 for front brake pads ). I would have thought Sportsmarts are somewhere in the region of £250 to buy only, so that equates to arond £90 fitting. Locally I think £10 for fitting and balance per loose tyre is the norm, "maybe" a little cheaper if you buy the tyres of them
And he paid it? More fool him then, Sportsmarts were £234 fitted last time I was having my tyres done at my place.
I don't know any bike shops that will charge £30 for removal and fitting two tyres , dealers charge at least that per end. BMW charged my mate £340 for supplying and fitting two Sportsmart tyres ( and £180 for front brake pads ). I would have thought Sportsmarts are somewhere in the region of £250 to buy only, so that equates to arond £90 fitting. Locally I think £10 for fitting and balance per loose tyre is the norm, "maybe" a little cheaper if you buy the tyres of them
And he paid it? More fool him then, Sportsmarts were £234 fitted last time I was having my tyres done at my place.
About what I thought, £240-£250 for Sportsmarts To be fair to my mate, he took the bike for it's second service (5000ml I believe) and he only got the bill after he had the work done, £720 to be precise
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Captain StripleR:
Mach 1:
I don't know any bike shops that will charge £30 for removal and fitting two tyres , dealers charge at least that per end. BMW charged my mate £340 for supplying and fitting two Sportsmart tyres ( and £180 for front brake pads ). I would have thought Sportsmarts are somewhere in the region of £250 to buy only, so that equates to arond £90 fitting. Locally I think £10 for fitting and balance per loose tyre is the norm, "maybe" a little cheaper if you buy the tyres of them
And he paid it? More fool him then, Sportsmarts were £234 fitted last time I was having my tyres done at my place.
About what I thought, £240-£250 for Sportsmarts To be fair to my mate, he took the bike for it's second service (5000ml I believe) and he only got the bill after he had the work done, £720 to be precise
Needless to say he's not going back to BMW for work on his bike
i rode my triumph today first time in months as it was broken bloody cold and had to nip to see a few people for various things so only did about 30 miles.long enough to realise that avon viper xtremes aint winter tyres, so need to get some sports touring ones to fit on my other rims. forgotten how good these triples feel
Quote: To be fair to my mate, he took the bike for it's second service (5000ml I believe) and he only got the bill after he had the work done, £720 to be precise
Surely he'd be within his rights to tell them to stick it, unless he'd authorised them to replace them. I fancied trying some Sportsmarts, but baulked at the ridiculous £234 price tag. Fitted Avons for £190, which was painful enough, and about £30 more thamn the sam etyres 12 months earlier.
Quote: To be fair to my mate, he took the bike for it's second service (5000ml I believe) and he only got the bill after he had the work done, £720 to be precise
Surely he'd be within his rights to tell them to stick it, unless he'd authorised them to replace them. I fancied trying some Sportsmarts, but baulked at the ridiculous £234 price tag. Fitted Avons for £190, which was painful enough, and about £30 more thamn the sam etyres 12 months earlier.
More to the point, why didn't he ask the dealer to check with him as to how much the work etc was going to cost before proceeding? Personally I would have told them to f!$% off,I didn't authorise the work etc.
Quote: To be fair to my mate, he took the bike for it's second service (5000ml I believe) and he only got the bill after he had the work done, £720 to be precise
Surely he'd be within his rights to tell them to stick it, unless he'd authorised them to replace them. I fancied trying some Sportsmarts, but baulked at the ridiculous £234 price tag. Fitted Avons for £190, which was painful enough, and about £30 more thamn the sam etyres 12 months earlier.
More to the point, why didn't he ask the dealer to check with him as to how much the work etc was going to cost before proceeding? Personally I would have told them to f!$% off,I didn't authorise the work etc.
I think he didn't ask about prices beforehand as he was expecting the bill to be around the same as what he was used to on his previous bikes (R1's, ZX10R's, 1198S). The tyres he knew were expensive to buy, but the labour was certainly a bit ott imo. As for £180 for front brake pads, that too is pricey. My mate has a decent wage but even he was taken back by the price. And of course he did authorise the work but you can't tell BMW to take the parts back after you get the bill, live and learn I guess . Reckons he wouldn't go back to them for servicing, but considering he's thinking of buying the 2012 model, where does he take it?
"you can't tell BMW to take the parts back after you get the bill"
You can if you didn't tell them to fit them. If he told them to fit them and didn't ask how much then he's f!$%ing stupid and deserves shafting, lol. Tbh, anyone who goes to a dealer for tyres fitted is f!$%ing stupid.
£180 for brake pads Take the 1 off the front and that would still be ridiculous, lol.
Captain StripleR: "you can't tell BMW to take the parts back after you get the bill"
You can if you didn't tell them to fit them. If he told them to fit them and didn't ask how much then he's f!$%ing stupid and deserves shafting, lol. Tbh, anyone who goes to a dealer for tyres fitted is f!$%ing stupid.
£180 for brake pads Take the 1 off the front and that would still be ridiculous, lol.
I have already pointed out that he authorised the work, so he can't then tell BMW to remove the parts. As for going to dealer, the bike was in for service anyway so he thought it would save the time and inconvenience to get all the work needed at one place. Stupid? Probably was a bit. But in his defence, and as I wrote in my last post , he was expecting a bill similar to work he has had done on other bikes he has owned before. As for anyone going to a dealer for tyre changes, there are a few motorcycle tyre fitters who will only fit to loose wheels, and if the owner isn't competant enough (or has the right tools) to remove wheels then sometimes a local dealer is the only option. Wouldn't be me though, and tbh I would have took the wheels off for him, and fitted a set of decent pads ,for a lot less money
I've never come across a motorcycle tyre fitters who will only fit to loose wheels. You'd have to be mad to go to a dealer for tyres, they always charge massively over the odds for the tyres themselves, then bill the labour at full workshop rates (rather than the tenner or so per end most tyre places will charge). Plus they're more likely to damage your rims, because they fit tyres so infrequently they're not used to doing it.
Captain StripleR: I've never come across a motorcycle tyre fitters who will only fit to loose wheels. You'd have to be mad to go to a dealer for tyres, they always charge massively over the odds for the tyres themselves, then bill the labour at full workshop rates (rather than the tenner or so per end most tyre places will charge). Plus they're more likely to damage your rims, because they fit tyres so infrequently they're not used to doing it.
No one can say you're not persistent
Hunters Motorcycles, Westagate Rd, Newcastle. They probably fit 80% of all tyres in the area excluding dealers. And they only fit on loose wheels
Captain StripleR: Maybe so, but they're the exception, rather than the norm.
I can't confirm that remark countrywide CS ,as I only use local dealers/shops. Hunters is probably one of the best known shops in the area. The likes of Tyrespot do motorcycle tyres at some of their depots, but I'm not sure if they will take the wheels off. I guarantee though it will be more than £30 for two tyres fitted and balanced if they do. If you know about any other tyre fitters (non-dealer) in the North East who remove the wheels and fit and balance for under £30, please let me know
I'm in Yorkshire, but I've genuinely never heard of a motorcycle tyre fitters (rather than a car fitter that sells the odd bike tyre too) who don't offer a ride in - ride out service. I use Bike Tyres Leeds.
Mine was with the wheel off the bike. I am considering buying my own tire(tyre for you Brits) changing and balancing equipment and going into business for myself. Wheel off only and you bring your own tire for 20 bucks.
Johnnystriple: Mine was with the wheel off the bike. I am considering buying my own tire(tyre for you Brits) changing and balancing equipment and going into business for myself. Wheel off only and you bring your own tire for 20 bucks.
If you change a lot of tyres, or know of mates who do, then it might be worth buying a tyre changer I change tyres myself on trackbikes, but for road bikes where you don't want to mark the rims, a good tyre changer is needed and can cost possibly £2000.
Captain StripleR: I'm in Yorkshire, but I've genuinely never heard of a motorcycle tyre fitters (rather than a car fitter that sells the odd bike tyre too) who don't offer a ride in - ride out service. I use Bike Tyres Leeds.
Well you have now Leeds a bit far for me to change tyres unfortunately.
Lugged the desktop into the garage and plugged the T509 into TuneECU, reset TPS & IACV, everything seems to be running fine.
Took it for a wee run yesterday, nice day but still cold & damp and still a fair bit of salt on the roads. Washed it, lubed the chain, sprayed on some ACF, & put it back in the garage.
Captain StripleR: Maybe so, but they're the exception, rather than the norm.
Depends on their liability insurance, for example I got a rear puncture in the IOM years ago and the only place on thhe Island that had a replacement Bridgstone was ATS, and they would onlyfit to a loose wheel becuase the chap said their liability insurance did not cover them to re-move and re-fit bike wheels. He was pretty good though, cos I managed to get the bike there in a mates van and then they lent me a rear paddock stand and tools to remove and fit the wheel myself, including a torque wrench.
Captain StripleR: Maybe so, but they're the exception, rather than the norm.
Depends on their liability insurance, for example I got a rear puncture in the IOM years ago and the only place on thhe Island that had a replacement Bridgstone was ATS, and they would onlyfit to a loose wheel becuase the chap said their liability insurance did not cover them to re-move and re-fit bike wheels.
I did say "rather than a car fitter that sells the odd bike tyre".
Bike ran like a raped ape
Bugs in my teeth once again.
). I would have thought Sportsmarts are somewhere in the region of £250 to buy only, so that equates to arond £90 fitting. 
bloody cold and had to nip to see a few people for various things so only did about 30 miles.long enough to realise that avon viper xtremes aint winter tyres, so need to get some sports touring ones to fit on my other rims. forgotten how good these triples feel
